FM Coug's Pioneer Day nightmare

[myboynoah]

I always hit crown burger when I'm in town. Their bacon cheeseburger is great and they have decent fry sauce to boot!

Yeah, I like that BCB. Don't like the Crown Burger much.

[kccougar]

I prefer astro burger. Crown puts relish in the fry sauce so it has little pickle pieces. Ick.

That's what makes it the best fry sauce in Utah, and by extension, the world!

[YOhio]

Happy Pioneer Day to all of my dear internet friends!!!

[scottie]

Happy Pioneer Day to all of my dear internet friends!!!

And Happy Big 5-0 Birthday to Karl The Mailman Malone!!!

[Harry Tic]

I always think it's funny when on my street everybody puts up their big American flag on Pioneer Day.

[UtahDan]

Happy Pioneer Day to all of my dear internet friends!!!

Pioneer Day! The day our spiritual fore bearers entered Mexico as undocumented immigrants.

[Portland Ute]

Pioneer Day! The day our spiritual fore bearers entered Mexico as undocumented immigrants.

Cute, but a bit of a stretch if I am remembering my Utah history correctly. The Mexican-American war was well under way. By the time the Pioneers arrived in Utah in July of 1847, the U.S. was firmly in control of the territory. Robert E. Lee, Stonewall Jackson and U.S. Grant had arrived via sea at the Gulf city of Veracruz months earlier. Within two weeks of the pioneers arriving in the Salt Lake Valley, the U.S. forces would gain control of Mexico City itself.

It might have been Mexican land, technically, but it was firmly under U.S. control.

Given the firm grasp the U.S. had on Mexico and Mexico's complete inability to defend itself or regain control of its lands and seeing the fates of both nations in the ensuing 150+ years, one has to wonder if the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo was a giant mistake. Perhaps both countries would be much better off had the U.S. just incorporated Mexico into the United States.

[Indy Coug]

Pioneer Day! The day our spiritual fore bearers entered Mexico as undocumented immigrants.

Who displaced all of the legal cricket harvesters living in Utah at the time, forcing them to return to Mexico to find work.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Cute, but a bit of a stretch if I am remembering my Utah history correctly. The Mexican-American war was well under way. By the time the Pioneers arrived in Utah in July of 1847, the U.S. was firmly in control of the territory. Robert E. Lee, Stonewall Jackson and U.S. Grant had arrived via sea at the Gulf city of Veracruz months earlier. Within two weeks of the pioneers arriving in the Salt Lake Valley, the U.S. forces would gain control of Mexico City itself.

It might have been Mexican land, technically, but it was firmly under U.S. control.

Given the firm grasp the U.S. had on Mexico and Mexico's complete inability to defend itself or regain control of its lands and seeing the fates of both nations in the ensuing 150+ years, one has to wonder if the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo was a giant mistake. Perhaps both countries would be much better off had the U.S. just incorporated Mexico into the United States.

Reading the Polk bio completely changed my perspective on the Mexican American War. Hooray for the land grab!

[Portland Ute]

Reading the Polk bio completely changed my perspective on the Mexican American War. Hooray for the land grab!

What was the name of that? I'd be interested in reading it.

Was it tough reading?

[Jeff Lebowski]

What was the name of that? I'd be interested in reading it.

Was it tough reading?

A Country of Vast Designs: James K. Polk, the Mexican War and the Conquest of the American Continent

http://www.amazon.com/Country-Vast-D...s=james+k+polk

Published in 2009. Outstanding book. I thought it was easy reading.

[Portland Ute]

A Country of Vast Designs: James K. Polk, the Mexican War and the Conquest of the American Continent

http://www.amazon.com/Country-Vast-D...s=james+k+polk

Published in 2009. Outstanding book. I thought it was easy reading.

Thanks for the recommendation.

[YOhio]

Happy Pioneer Day! The world's greatest holiday!

think Pioneer Day is wonderful because it’s this quirky thing we have all to ourselves in this quirky state. It’s a celebration of whatever you love about Utah.

It’s a celebration of the community, the towns, and the friendships. It’s a celebration of Coachman’s Diner on State Street promising on a large sign out front that “You’ll be pleasantly SURPRISED,” our Five National Parks we are all starting to wish we advertised a little less, the “Cosmo Contains Porn” billboards along I15, and the outrageous light display at Draper Park on Christmas.

It’s a celebration of the gubernatorial candidate who sat on the floor to talk to some gay kids staging a sit-in, the fire dancers at Liberty Park on Sunday afternoons, and the Olympic signs still so ubiquitous that you would think 2002 was only a few days ago.

It’s a celebration of the lip-synced Manti Pageant on a grassy hill in front of a massive castle-like temple, the fact we all can name at least ten movies filmed in Utah—and we take pride in this, and, yes, even Brigham Young’s grave out behind an apartment complex.

Pioneer Day is a celebration of the crazy. But it’s also a celebration of love and gratitude and joy. It’s a celebration of why This Is The Right Place for you.

So let’s celebrate. Let’s celebrate the hell out of Pioneer Day. Let’s do it together. Let’s pull covered wagons in the parade, or run the marathon that finishes along the parade route, or stand on the side with a cold beer cheering on floats of missionaries innocently humping the Earth. In a time with so much division, let’s be united in this one thing. Let’s be united in love, in the broadest sense, on this single day where you just get to be super happy you live in a super state.

Because no matter who you are or how you ended up in Utah, you have to admit it’s a pretty spectacularly odd and wonderful place. It’s a place that has given you an official day on the calendar to celebrate it.

It’s the right place.

[falafel]

I'm a fan. I like the pastrami though so I usually go with the Crown vs. the Bacon Cheeseburger. But those are good too.

My new client I go onsite to two days a week is in the Jordan Commons which is about a block from the one in Sandy on State street so I hit that up today.

Sadly The Mayan has closed so that is not a lunch option for me.

Not surprised FM Coug liked this terrible restaurant that served bad "Mexican" food.

[Donuthole]

Not surprised FM Coug liked this terrible restaurant that served bad "Mexican" food.

He was almost certainly one of the people waiting in 3-hour lines to eat one last time at Macayo's before it went out of business.