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  • ERCougar
    Junior Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 10978

    #1

    Improving router signal

    Someone on here must have dealt with this problem. Router in office which is upstairs. Crappy wifi coverage downstairs. Aside from repositioning the router (which isn't very feasible), how do we improve coverage downstairs? I have a spare router that still works well. Can I somehow hook this up downstairs and then relay the signal from there? Or is it just relaying an already weak signal? We're setting up a home theater, so a strong signal is actually more important downstairs (not in the office) than upstairs, although I'd obviously prefer a strong signal both places.

    I've looked around online and am seeing two main suggestions--a wireless "repeater" and the Apple Airport Extreme. But when I look on Apple's website, it looks like the Airport is just another router, and overpriced at that (shocker). Help?
    At least the Big Ten went after a big-time addition in Nebraska; the Pac-10 wanted a game so badly, it added Utah
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  • Jeff Lebowski
    Corporate lackey for Jesus
    • Nov 2008
    • 69669

    #2
    I recently dumped my linksys and got an Apple Airport Express (~$100). Best wifi router I have ever had in terms of signal strength and robustness.

    You may want to consider a powerline adapter kit. Turns your home wiring system into a wired ethernet network. Works beautifully. That way you can have a superfast wired connection for your home theater. You could also add a second wifi router for your basement if you wanted to.
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    • ERCougar
      Junior Member
      • Nov 2008
      • 10978

      #3
      Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
      I recently dumped my linksys and got an Apple Airport Express (~$100). Best wifi router I have ever had in terms of signal strength and robustness.

      You may want to consider a powerline adapter kit. Turns your home wiring system into a wired ethernet network. Works beautifully. That way you can have a superfast wired connection for your home theater. You could also add a second wifi router for your basement if you wanted to.
      Interesting.
      Is this what you're talking about?


      Would the second router just connect directly into the adapter (which I assume just plugs into an AV outlet)?
      Last edited by ERCougar; 10-27-2011, 02:35 PM.
      At least the Big Ten went after a big-time addition in Nebraska; the Pac-10 wanted a game so badly, it added Utah
      -Berry Trammel, 12/3/10

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      • Jeff Lebowski
        Corporate lackey for Jesus
        • Nov 2008
        • 69669

        #4
        Originally posted by ERCougar View Post
        Interesting.
        Is this what you're talking about?


        Would the second router just connect directly into the adapter (which I assume just plugs into an AV outlet)?
        Yep. I have the Panasonic version.

        My incoming broadband connection is in my garage. I have a fast router (non-wifi) there that acts as my core router. I have my master powerline unit connected to that router and it is plugged in to the wall socket. That provides the link for all of the wall sockets in my house. For certain locations (office, home theater, etc.) I use a child powerline unit to get a superfast wired connection. Then I put my Apple wifi router in the center of my house where I get optimal coverage for the entire house (up and down). I connect the Apple wifi router to the system using another child powerline unit. Works beautifully.
        "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
        "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
        "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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        • ewth8tr
          Reverend of Irreverence
          • Nov 2008
          • 2347

          #5
          What kind of routers do you have? Some options are replacing the antennas on the primary router, or, if the spare router is capable, you can use DD-WRT firmware to turn the spare router in to a wireless repeater.
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          • Jeff Lebowski
            Corporate lackey for Jesus
            • Nov 2008
            • 69669

            #6
            Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
            Yep. I have the Panasonic version.

            My incoming broadband connection is in my garage. I have a fast router (non-wifi) there that acts as my core router. I have my master powerline unit connected to that router and it is plugged in to the wall socket. That provides the link for all of the wall sockets in my house. For certain locations (office, home theater, etc.) I use a child powerline unit to get a superfast wired connection. Then I put my Apple wifi router in the center of my house where I get optimal coverage for the entire house (up and down). I connect the Apple wifi router to the system using another child powerline unit. Works beautifully.
            By the way, in this scenario my Apple Airport Express acts simply as a wifi bridge, not a router. You can change it in the settings. Otherwise you have two networks and printing, file sharing, etc. becomes a hassle.
            "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
            "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
            "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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            • doctorcoug
              To Win is to Honor Him
              • Jun 2009
              • 2273

              #7
              Originally posted by ewth8tr View Post
              What kind of routers do you have? Some options are replacing the antennas on the primary router, or, if the spare router is capable, you can use DD-WRT firmware to turn the spare router in to a wireless repeater.
              I second this comment. DD-WRT firmware is awesome.
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              • ERCougar
                Junior Member
                • Nov 2008
                • 10978

                #8
                Thanks guys. That power link thing looks perfect. Ddwrt isnt available on my new router, but I haven't checked on the old one yet.
                At least the Big Ten went after a big-time addition in Nebraska; the Pac-10 wanted a game so badly, it added Utah
                -Berry Trammel, 12/3/10

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                • Parrot Head
                  Operation Hot Mother
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 2322

                  #9
                  I, too, highly recommend a Powerline adapter. I bought this Brite-View a year ago for the price and that it was a 200 Mbps model and while the first set they sent wasn't working properly, the replacement was sent quickly and it has worked great. My home router is a Buffalo and I have a VPN-enabled Cisco for my office so I needed a direct connection in the office. I tried a NetGear in place of the Buffalo, as well as some other Verizon router, but went back to the 4-year-old Buffalo.
                  I have nothing else to say at this time.

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                  • FMCoug
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 6825

                    #10
                    I agree that wired is always the best way to go. My house is wired with Cat5 but if it wasn't I would go with a PowerLine network for sure. WiFi is fine for laptops, phones, tablets, etc. but anything stationary should be hardwired IMO.
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                    • TripletDaddy
                      sweet triple
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 58186

                      #11
                      Originally posted by FMCoug View Post
                      I agree that wired is always the best way to go. My house is wired with Cat5 but if it wasn't I would go with a PowerLine network for sure. WiFi is fine for laptops, phones, tablets, etc. but anything stationary should be hardwired IMO.
                      Our place is hard wired throughout but I have the wi if problem with the tablet.if I'm all the way upstairs, the wi fi signal is weak. Although I don't know how much of that is the iPad itself. I often find that I need to turn the radio off and then back on again otherwise the device simply loads and loads a page, eventually disconnecting altogether. It can be very annoying.
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                      • FMCoug
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 6825

                        #12
                        Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                        Our place is hard wired throughout but I have the wi if problem with the tablet.if I'm all the way upstairs, the wi fi signal is weak. Although I don't know how much of that is the iPad itself. I often find that I need to turn the radio off and then back on again otherwise the device simply loads and loads a page, eventually disconnecting altogether. It can be very annoying.
                        I have the same problem with my Android tablet.
                        "It's true that everything happens for a reason. Just remember that sometimes that reason is that you did something really, really, stupid."

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                        • Parrot Head
                          Operation Hot Mother
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 2322

                          #13
                          Originally posted by FMCoug View Post
                          I have the same problem with my Android tablet.
                          Shhh! Don't admit that -- here's a chance to have the Apple product show it's inferiority.
                          I have nothing else to say at this time.

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                          • Jeff Lebowski
                            Corporate lackey for Jesus
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 69669

                            #14
                            Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                            Our place is hard wired throughout but I have the wi if problem with the tablet.if I'm all the way upstairs, the wi fi signal is weak. Although I don't know how much of that is the iPad itself. I often find that I need to turn the radio off and then back on again otherwise the device simply loads and loads a page, eventually disconnecting altogether. It can be very annoying.
                            Add a wifi bridge. They aren't that expensive and you can get strong coverage everywhere.
                            "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                            "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                            "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                            • ERCougar
                              Junior Member
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 10978

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                              By the way, in this scenario my Apple Airport Express acts simply as a wifi bridge, not a router. You can change it in the settings. Otherwise you have two networks and printing, file sharing, etc. becomes a hassle.
                              Can most routers act as either a bridge or a router? The thing is, I already have two routers--and old one that still works (but I'm not using) and a newer one that I'm using, but that doesn't have a great signal in the basement. So I'd rather not buy a third router or a bridge. I'm guessing the bridge picks up the wifi signal and amplifies it somehow? Or does it have to connect into the wall as well (i.e. I still need the powerline adapter)?
                              Last edited by ERCougar; 11-03-2011, 09:58 AM.
                              At least the Big Ten went after a big-time addition in Nebraska; the Pac-10 wanted a game so badly, it added Utah
                              -Berry Trammel, 12/3/10

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