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  • #16
    Originally posted by nikuman View Post
    I don't know if women like it or not, but there is a definite regional difference in the practice. I typically conform my practice to the region in which I live (I had more or less the same upbringing as you on this topic). In Texas, women are always permitted on and off elevators first, for example, no matter the setting (it actually bugs one of my coworkers when we wait for her to get off first). In NYC, that idea is laughable at best.
    I was going to post this very same thing. Women are always the first on and off the elevator in my building.

    On standing when someone enters a room, if I shake their hand then I stand, otherwise I stay seated. I also don't open the car door for my wife, but I do push the unlock button so maybe that counts.
    "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Eddie Jones View Post
      I was going to post this very same thing. Women are always the first on and off the elevator in my building.

      On standing when someone enters a room, if I shake their hand then I stand, otherwise I stay seated. I also don't open the car door for my wife, but I do push the unlock button so maybe that counts.
      Maybe it's just our two-block radius of Texas.
      Awesomeness now has a name. Let me introduce myself.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by nikuman View Post
        Maybe it's just our two-block radius of Texas.
        Could be since it also happens in the 30 story building next to both of us (I spent almost 3 years in that building) and I can't imagine anyone from Dallas being that curteous
        "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Eddie Jones View Post
          Could be since it also happens in the 30 story building next to both of us (I spent almost 3 years in that building) and I can't imagine anyone from Dallas being that curteous
          I can't imagine humans living in Dallas, for that matter.
          Awesomeness now has a name. Let me introduce myself.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by nikuman View Post
            I can't imagine humans living in Dallas, for that matter.
            It seems like when I was living in Dallas, they were saying the same thing about Houston.
            What's to explain? It's a bunch of people, most of whom you've never met, who are just as likely to be homicidal maniacs as they are to be normal everyday people, with whom you share the minutiae of your everyday life. It's totally normal, and everyone would understand.
            -Teenage Dirtbag

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            • #21
              Originally posted by cowboy View Post
              Though I trace all of my family roots back a long ways in the church, my family's only claim to fame in church history books is that one of my great-whatever grandfathers was reprimanded by Joseph Smith for saying that chopping wood was women's work. Sexism apparently runs deep in my heritage.

              I grew up in a sexist household, but I'm a step or two away from my father, who thinks a bowl of Wheaties is cooking. I cook, I've changed a few diapers, I never call anything women's work, and though my wife is a SAHM it is her choice and I'm fine with whatever she wants to do. But I have a few holdovers from childhood.

              I was always taught that men open doors for women, that men stood at the dinner table before all the women were seated, took their hats off for women in an elevator, and well, all of that old fashioned stuff. I've continued these practices into adulthood, believing it polite, but my association with people on this board makes me wonder if treating women differently is not polite, and sometimes offensive.

              This is an honest question, and I'd like to hear women's opinions. Is it bad to treat women differently? Women, does it come off as polite, or does it just piss you off when a man apologizes for swearing in front of you, or steps aside to allow you to walk through the door first?
              You're okay, cowboy. Wyoming is the equality state.
              "More crazy people to Provo go than to any other town in the state."
              -- Iron County Record. 23 August, 1912. (http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lc...23/ed-1/seq-4/)

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              • #22
                Opening doors for women, but not men, is definitely sexist, but at least it is NICE sexist. Nice sexism is totally tolerable, so if you don't want to give it up, I'm sure few will complain.

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                • #23
                  I grew up in a different era and can't shake old habits. I hold doors for the ladies, let them off the elevator first, defer to them when getting in line for food and would never pass gas in an elevator if I knew a lady was in the elevator with me.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by beelzebabette View Post
                    when my gait's interrupted because I have to wait for him to catch up after he's stepped behind me or whatever, I roll my eyes a little.
                    I see a pattern here.

                    Originally posted by marsupial View Post

                    I guess I would think it was a little funny if a man apologized for swearing in front of me, especially since I probably have a worse potty mouth than him.
                    I always apologize for cussing in front of a woman. My European colleagues roll their eyes at me (maybe they're related to bbb), but I keep on doing it. Just like sir and ma'am, some things about my culture can't really be taken out of me.

                    I will say that I am very chauvinistic when it comes to women cussing. I hate it.
                    "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
                    The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
                      I will say that I am very chauvinistic when it comes to women cussing. I hate it.
                      and very old fashioned and out of date I might add. When I was in college, gals that smoked or swore were quite popular. It was a very good sign you go all the way with them on the first date.

                      Of course that was at USU, I think the profiling method at BYU was if the girl wore levi's off campus.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by byu71 View Post
                        and very old fashioned and out of date I might add. When I was in college, gals that smoked or swore were quite popular. It was a very good sign you go all the way with them on the first date.

                        Of course that was at USU, I think the profiling method at BYU was if the girl wore levi's off campus.
                        You probably just took them to Fredrico's to see if they would eat the beet salad.
                        "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
                        The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
                          You probably just took them to Fredrico's to see if they would eat the beet salad.
                          Au contraire. First off I was very particular in the women I went out with. Even the ones I could tell were going to be very favorable to my advances, I treated with the ultimate respect. A very nice dinner, good dancing and sensitive conversation were always part of lead up to .

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by byu71 View Post
                            Au contraire. First off I was very particular in the women I went out with. Even the ones I could tell were going to be very favorable to my advances, I treated with the ultimate respect. A very nice dinner, good dancing and sensitive conversation were always part of lead up to .
                            I take it you're a "true" Aggie then?
                            "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
                            The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
                              I take it you're a "true" Aggie then?
                              In every way except the team I root for. I am a bandwaggoner.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by byu71 View Post
                                I grew up in a different era and can't shake old habits. I hold doors for the ladies, let them off the elevator first, defer to them when getting in line for food and would never pass gas in an elevator if I knew a lady was in the elevator with me.
                                Whatever happened to that babe you met by farting in the elevator?

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