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  • smokymountainrain
    Impressive Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 22593

    #106
    Originally posted by imanihonjin View Post
    This. Even with the pension program in place, I still sock away a sizable portion of my salary into 401k and other retirement accounts. My biggest fear is running out of money or having to scrape by or even worse rely on my kids.
    yep. we have a good pension, yet I still max out my 401k and double that amount by contributing to a 457b. I've never talked to a retiree who complains about having too much money in retirement.
    I'm like LeBron James.
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    • imanihonjin
      Junior Member
      • Jun 2013
      • 3772

      #107
      Originally posted by BigFatMeanie View Post
      What if we don't think this, but we just don't care?
      You may not care, but if nothing is done, you will pay for it.

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      • Paperback Writer
        Signature won a Pulitzer
        • Nov 2010
        • 5211

        #108
        Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
        But pensions cut both ways, right? If you and/or your wife live an extra long life, you would end up with a higher benefit than you put it. Kind of like an insurance program. One reason why a pension/401K combo is not a bad idea.
        Correct - it does cut both ways and a pension/401K combo is a good solution. I was looking at it from an either/or position. I wonder what the ROI difference would be between a traditional pension with average life span and having those same funds invested in the market over a 30-40 year period in a 401K. I already know that I will be taking my small pension as a lump sum so I can invest those funds. But that's just my situation since that small pension is only about 5% of my retirement funds. I doubt I would make the same decision if I had a government pension paying 65% of my salary.
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        • Mormon Red Death
          BYU Delenda Est
          • Nov 2008
          • 8077

          #109
          Anyone a Mustachian? I work with a gal who is set to retire in 4 years at the ripe old age of 34. She will have her house paid off and have 800k in the bank.
          "Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum

          "And here’s what life comes down to—not how many years you live, but how many of those years are filled with bullshit that doesn’t amount to anything to satisfy the requirements of some dickhead you’ll never get the pleasure of punching in the face." – Adam Carolla

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          • falafel
            loves to talk on things
            • Mar 2009
            • 37928

            #110
            How much would it take for you to retire/leave work

            Originally posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
            Anyone a Mustachian? I work with a gal who is set to retire in 4 years at the ripe old age of 34. She will have her house paid off and have 800k in the bank.
            My wife like that blog.

            Hmm, doesn't seem like enough money.
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            • Mormon Red Death
              BYU Delenda Est
              • Nov 2008
              • 8077

              #111
              Originally posted by falafel View Post
              My wife like that blog.

              Hmm, doesn't seem like enough money.
              It depends if you live on small amounts like she does you would live on the interest and never touch the principle. She isn't going to have a mortgage, she rides her bike instead of drives so her car last forever. She has google internet so it was a one time payment. Very minimalist/frugal life.
              "Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum

              "And here’s what life comes down to—not how many years you live, but how many of those years are filled with bullshit that doesn’t amount to anything to satisfy the requirements of some dickhead you’ll never get the pleasure of punching in the face." – Adam Carolla

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              • falafel
                loves to talk on things
                • Mar 2009
                • 37928

                #112
                Originally posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
                It depends if you live on small amounts like she does you would live on the interest and never touch the principle. She isn't going to have a mortgage, she rides her bike instead of drives so her car last forever. She has google internet so it was a one time payment. Very minimalist/frugal life.
                The idea of a life that frugal sounds like hell to me. I can't imagine being in that kind of budget from 34 on just so I don't have to have a job.
                Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

                Dig your own grave, and save!

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                • Mormon Red Death
                  BYU Delenda Est
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 8077

                  #113
                  Originally posted by falafel View Post
                  The idea of a life that frugal sounds like hell to me. I can't imagine being in that kind of budget from 34 on just so I don't have to have a job.
                  To each his own... I mean they claim they don't make that many sacrifices. They ride their bike a lot. They hang their clothes instead of the dryer. They make their lunch. I dont know it would be nice to wake up and not have to deal with the shit that comes with working.
                  "Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum

                  "And here’s what life comes down to—not how many years you live, but how many of those years are filled with bullshit that doesn’t amount to anything to satisfy the requirements of some dickhead you’ll never get the pleasure of punching in the face." – Adam Carolla

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                  • Jeff Lebowski
                    Corporate lackey for Jesus
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 69601

                    #114
                    Originally posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
                    To each his own... I mean they claim they don't make that many sacrifices. They ride their bike a lot. They hang their clothes instead of the dryer. They make their lunch. I dont know it would be nice to wake up and not have to deal with the shit that comes with working.
                    Yeah. For a few weeks. Then I would go crazy.
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                    • Uncle Ted
                      The Big 12 money shot.
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 28853

                      #115
                      I have a good friend who came up with an algorithm that is used for a hedge fund. The fund has over $700M under management and he is now retired. All he does now is read reddit and drive his wife crazy.
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                      • Mormon Red Death
                        BYU Delenda Est
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 8077

                        #116
                        Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                        Yeah. For a few weeks. Then I would go crazy.
                        Maybe but you could decide what you would want to do. Coach football...get into woodworking, go on bike rides. Have a kick ass garden. You could write, learn new languages... the idea is intriguing.
                        "Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum

                        "And here’s what life comes down to—not how many years you live, but how many of those years are filled with bullshit that doesn’t amount to anything to satisfy the requirements of some dickhead you’ll never get the pleasure of punching in the face." – Adam Carolla

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                        • Clark Addison
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 10301

                          #117
                          Originally posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
                          Maybe but you could decide what you would want to do. Coach football...get into woodworking, go on bike rides. Have a kick ass garden. You could write, learn new languages... the idea is intriguing.
                          Your options of what you could get into on that budget are severely limited. Woodworking, for one, is not really an option. And I think several on here can talk to the expenses of biking as a hobby. Travel, which is what a whole lot of people want to do when they retire, is pretty much out as well.

                          As you said, to each his own, but I kind of like my job. I certainly like it more than restraining myself to that extent.

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                          • smokymountainrain
                            Impressive Member
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 22593

                            #118
                            Originally posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
                            Anyone a Mustachian? I work with a gal who is set to retire in 4 years at the ripe old age of 34. She will have her house paid off and have 800k in the bank.
                            For her sake, I hope she stays healthy. Hospital costs will blow that plan out of the water real fast.
                            I'm like LeBron James.
                            -mpfunk

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                            • Jeff Lebowski
                              Corporate lackey for Jesus
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 69601

                              #119
                              Originally posted by Bo Diddley View Post
                              I have a spreadsheet that tracks what I'll receive for my active duty pension + my state of Utah pension from prior employment + SS. I'll retire quite comfortably, even if they change up the SS formula. So while I'm not rich and never will be, six figures is still comfortable.
                              We throw the term around all the time, but it is mostly misused. But here is a genuine, honest-to-goodness humblebrag. Well done.
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                              • happyone
                                Board Bookworm
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 5394

                                #120
                                Since I work for the Feds and it's getting close, I will get a small pension (1.1% x nr of yrs worked x average high three yrs salary, if I work to age 62) + social security + TSP savings. The Feds match the TSP contribution dollar for dollar for the first 5%. I'm still amazed at how many new hires are not putting the full 5% into the TSP

                                My FU point ( the point that if I get fed up enough I can just retire) is in 3 1/2 yrs, but I wll probably work 2 or 3 yrs beyond that. I figure I will have somewhere between 800K and a million dollars in my TSP accounts and about 33 to 35 yrs, including my military time when I finally pull the plug.

                                One story - when I first started, the Feds were still using the old retirement system - pension and no Social Security and max out pension at 41 yrs. One of my coworkers was tasked to go TDY to South Dakota and he didn't want to go. He said there was no reason for him to go and the Unit in South Dakota just wanted someone to hold their hand while the modded their air planes. The discussion between this gentleman and the boss went on for about 6 weeks. Finally on the Friday before he was supposed to go, the boss gave him a direct order to go get his tickets. The Gentleman excused himself and left. We all thought to get the tickets. The next Tuesday morning, the boss gets a call from the unit wanting to know where the gentleman is. The boss says he's supposed to be there, so he'll check it out. The boss calls the calls the gentleman at home to find out what's going on. The gentleman tells the boss "I told you I wasn't going - I retired Friday, so I don't work for you anymore." and hangs up the phone.

                                The gentleman 57/58 and was one of the people who was drafted at 18, when the got out went right to work for the Feds, so he had just about maxed out his retirement

                                You can't do that any more - you have to give them two weeks to process the paperwork - but that is the way to go!
                                Last edited by happyone; 01-20-2016, 10:03 AM.

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