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  • #2416
    Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    From what I have read, iris scanning is more secure but slower and more limited. Face ID is supposed to be faster and may even work at oblique angles due to infrared technology.

    Touch ID = 1 in 50,000 chance of match with another person

    Face ID = 1 in 1,000,000 chance

    If you believe Apple, that is...
    It is due to a lot of hardware to make it fast and secure.... Infrared camera, flood illuminator (for viewing your face in the dark), dot projector,... and that freak'n neutral net hardware in the Bionic A11 CPU!

    https://www.apple.com/iphone-x/#face-id

    Touch ID can be spoofed. I am sure Face ID can be spoofed as well but it will take a lot more than just holding up a photo or even a life-like mask.
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    • #2417
      Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
      From what I have read, iris scanning is more secure but slower and more limited. Face ID is supposed to be faster and may even work at oblique angles due to infrared technology.

      Touch ID = 1 in 50,000 chance of match with another person

      Face ID = 1 in 1,000,000 chance

      If you believe Apple, that is...
      totally misleading stat. wonder what the stats are for affirmative attempts to get into someone else's phone
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      • #2418
        Originally posted by old_gregg View Post
        totally misleading stat. wonder what the stats are for affirmative attempts to get into someone else's phone
        Nice round numbers. Someone probably just made them up.
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        • #2419
          Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
          I am glad you enjoyed the product announcement. Put Oct 27th on your calendar. That is when you can order your new iPhone X!
          I was ready to order a new phone today, pretty awful announcement imo.
          Get confident, stupid
          -landpoke

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          • #2420
            Originally posted by falafel View Post
            Let's see how this compares to my Galaxy S8+

            Face unlock - got it.
            No home button - got it.
            Big edge to edge screen - got it.
            Wireless charging - got it.
            Longer battery life - got it.

            An apple calls it the future of the smartphone. That Animoji is kinda cool I guess.
            All those advantages haven't seemed to help your posting.
            Get confident, stupid
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            • #2421
              Originally posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
              All those advantages haven't seemed to help your posting.
              Seems like they would though.
              Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

              Dig your own grave, and save!

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              • #2422
                I like what I see. I'm going to at least get the 8, and maybe even the X. I think the new watch would be cool, but not enough to pay an extra 10 a month to be able to use it as a standalone phone. I'll keep my version 1 for now.

                Baaaaaaa!
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                • #2423
                  Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post
                  I like what I see. I'm going to at least get the 8, and maybe even the X. I think the new watch would be cool, but not enough to pay an extra 10 a month to be able to use it as a standalone phone. I'll keep my version 1 for now.

                  Baaaaaaa!


                  You should go with the X and the Apple Watch Series 3 (starting at only $329). Of course, you could get the Series 3 without the cell modem and save $70 if you don't want to spend the $10/mo to share your phone's data plan.

                  (And you could give your old Series 1 watch to JL for xmas!)
                  "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                  "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                  "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                  GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                  • #2424
                    So if I get the X does it mean that my apps that use the fingerprint scanner for security would no longer work with the facial scanner? At least until they are upgraded?
                    PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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                    • #2425
                      Wait, does the 8 still have the fingerprint scanner? If not, I'll just keep my 7.


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                      • #2426
                        Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                        Hey Uncle Ted.

                        UT's post was hilarious. You deserved every bit of that.


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                        • #2427
                          Originally posted by creekster View Post
                          So if I get the X does it mean that my apps that use the fingerprint scanner for security would no longer work with the facial scanner? At least until they are upgraded?
                          Your very unique facial data is stored in what is called the secure enclave (and not on the app CPU). This is the same with phones that have touch ID. The secure enclave will basically authenticate you and tell the OS/App, "Yeah, that is dude that owns this phone." Therefore, your apps that use Touch ID should continue to work with Face ID.

                          What will be different is legacy apps will not use all the screen until they have been upgraded for the iPhone X.
                          "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                          "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                          "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                          GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                          • #2428
                            Originally posted by Moliere View Post
                            Wait, does the 8 still have the fingerprint scanner? If not, I'll just keep my 7.
                            Yeah, the iPhone 8 has Touch ID ("1 in 50,000" chance of being spoofed by someone else).

                            The iPhone X has Face ID ("1 in 1,000,000" chance of being spoofed by someone else. "1 in a billion" in JL's case.)
                            "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                            "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                            "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                            GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                            • #2429
                              Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post


                              You should go with the X and the Apple Watch Series 3 (starting at only $329). Of course, you could get the Series 3 without the cell modem and save $70 if you don't want to spend the $10/mo to share your phone's data plan.

                              (And you could give your old Series 1 watch to JL for xmas!)
                              Oh I didn't realize the watch had a no phone option. Even still, I'm probably not going to upgrade that. Not unless JL is super nice to me.
                              "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
                              "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
                              - SeattleUte

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                              • #2430
                                Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post
                                Oh I didn't realize the watch had a no phone option. Even still, I'm probably not going to upgrade that. Not unless JL is super nice to me.
                                Yeah, about the only reason I would upgrade from my series 1 is for the water proof feature but I doubt the cell phone feature works that well at the bottom of the pool.

                                I guess we will see how bad JL wants an Apple Watch...

                                "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                                "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                                "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                                GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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