About the new board name (cougarstadium.com)

[Coach McGuirk]

Yep, you just nailed me. Exactly right.

Thanks for so thoroughly refuting so many stereotypes that I have heard of BYU fans over the years.

Thanks for reinforcing so many I have heard about Ute fans over the years.

[Moliere]

I don't know what y'all are complaining about. Hell, we don't even have a rival anymore. Y'all should show JL and the others of the executive committee and start UteBuffaloForum.com (Yes, this domain name is available). I would come over and visit.

I'm going to purchase CougarIrishForum.com

I meant several total between the two departments. I apologize if I didn't fully proofread my post to make sure it could not be misconstrued.

Having one of them live in your stake and you saying hi to them twice a year at stake conference does not constitute "knowing them personally".

See any post from cougjunkie, who conveniently found his way back after this event.

cj attacks cougar fans just as much as utes. He's an equal opportunity offender.

[Donuthole]

No AP art history when I was there, but if she was an art teacher, that would explain why I didn't have her. Never took art.

And yet you still ended up so cultured and refined. God certainly works in mysterious ways.

[Scratch]

Having one of them live in your stake and you saying hi to them twice a year at stake conference does not constitute "knowing them personally".

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/personally

Definition of PERSONALLY
1
: in person

[falafel]

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/personally

Definition of PERSONALLY
1
: in person

The implication was that you knew them well enough as to have some sort of inside knowledge of the BYU legal department and how it reacts to certain situations.

[Scratch]

The implication was that you knew them well enough as to have some sort of inside knowledge of the BYU legal department and how it reacts to certain situations.

You asked me how many I know personally. I answered that question based on the definition of "personally," which is the term you first used. Additionally, once you asked more, I told you how I know them personally. If the term "personally" potentially carried implications to you beyond the ordinary use of the word, you may have wanted to use a different term.

[Moliere]

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/personally

Definition of PERSONALLY
1
: in person

In that case, I know President Monson and Mitt Romney personally.

[falafel]

You asked me how many I know personally. I answered that question based on the definition of "personally," which is the term you first used. Additionally, once you asked more, I told you how I know them personally. If the term "personally" potentially carried implications to you beyond the ordinary use of the word, you may have wanted to use a different term.

I guess the implication was lost on you. I guess that also means that you'd like to walk back your assertion that have you personal and reliable knowledge of how the legal departments of either institution would react.

Here is what I said:

How many member of the Utah Legal Department do you know personally? I can't imagine how you or DU have any reliable evidence of how they would or would not react.

to which you responded:

I personally know several members of both legal departments.

Did you intend to imply that, through your "personal" relationships with these people, you had reliable evidence of how they would or would not react?

[Scratch]

In that case, I know President Monson and Mitt Romney personally.

You could always bring it up (personally) with Mr. Merriam and/or Mr. Webster.

[Scratch]

I guess the implication was lost on you. I guess that also means that you'd like to walk back your assertion that have you personal and reliable knowledge of how the legal departments of either institution would react.

Here is what I said:



to which you responded:



Did you intend to imply that, through your "personal" relationships with these people, you had reliable evidence of how they would or would not react?

Actually, as I stated in a thread above, my belief (and as I mentioned before, it is nothing more than a belief or guess) as to how either department would react has much less to do with any relationships (personal or otherwise) and much more to do with my understanding of the two institutions. So in other words there is nothing to walk back on, because I never made the assertions that you are attributing to me.

Although, truth be told, the best information for me is the fact that I have requested documents from other institutions that deal with the U, as well as with numerous other institutions other than BYU. I have only been contacted by one institution's legal department (unless you count the Texas AG's office, which informed me that certain documents pertaining to B12 and P12 expansion were being withheld due to the fact that they dealt with ongoing negotiations).

[SuperGabers]

I move for the immediate expulsion of all Ute fans.

Kicking them out now would be a kindness, really. Put them out of their misery now instead of watching them writhe and suffer for the next who knows how long, waiting for the magic moment when they realize things HAVE changed and the change is significant enough for them to leave anyway.

I nominate DU Ute as the first to get the guillotine.

Hey! Shut up you!

[falafel]

Actually, as I stated in a thread above, my belief (and as I mentioned before, it is nothing more than a belief or guess) as to how either department would react has much less to do with any relationships (personal or otherwise) and much more to do with my understanding of the two institutions. So in other words there is nothing to walk back on, because I never made the assertions that you are attributing to me.

Although, truth be told, the best information for me is the fact that I have requested documents from other institutions that deal with the U, as well as with numerous other institutions other than BYU. I have only been contacted by one institution's legal department (unless you count the Texas AG's office, which informed me that certain documents pertaining to B12 and P12 expansion were being withheld due to the fact that they dealt with ongoing negotiations).

Okay, so no reliable evidence. That's all I was getting at.

Can you tell us more about why BYU contacted you? Did you make a request to them for contract information? What did they say to you? What was your response?

[falafel]

Hey! Shut up you!

Sorry, LA Ute already bumped DU out of the top spot. I'd be happy to give you second place in line.

[Scratch]

Okay, so no reliable evidence. That's all I was getting at.

Can you tell us more about why BYU contacted you? Did you make a request to them for contract information? What did they say to you? What was your response?

They contacted me to ask why I was making the requests, and encouraged me to cease making the requests, but stopped short of demanding or actually asking me to stop. They didn't really ask for a yes or no response. As I recall, I acknowledged the request but never really said whether or not I would make any more requests. I informed them that I was just a fan who was interested in the subject matter of the requests.

Frankly, I don't believe I've asked for anything related to BYU since they reached out to me, primarily because I have a great deal of respect for my acquaintance* in the BYU legal department. Also, while I do get some enjoyment out of friendly back-and-forth with my rival's fans, if BYU cares enough to encourage me to stop I'll give some weight to that request. That's not to say it won't happen again if there's something I really care about, but I'm not going to ruffle feathers for something that really isn't terribly important.

Oh, and I never asked BYU for anything. I have a pretty good idea of what any private institution would say to me if I asked for documents from them.

*I hope this characterization is acceptable. Please let me know if you would like further clarification.

[jay santos]

Why is everyone acting like assholes all of a sudden?