Lighten up Francis.

[hostile]

is BiL Pakeha or Maori?

And welcome.

I don't think there are any pure -blooded Maori anymore. He does have Maori ancestry. Because of that we feel OK doing the Haka before church basketball games.

[Solon]

I don't think there are any pure -blooded Maori anymore. He does have Maori ancestry. Because of that we feel OK doing the Haka before church basketball games.

Welcome, hostile.

We have a lot in common. My father was a NZ missionary and I'm a U of U guy living in PA.

I just wish I still had my Jonah Lomu t-shirt from 1995.

[wuapinmon]

Hostile, please answer the following question, but think carefully about how you answer because it may determine, in large part, the quality of our future dealings.

In 711 AD, the Moors, part of the Grand Caliphate that Osama bin Laden wants to restart, invaded the Iberian Peninsula, and quickly overran the Visigothic kings who ruled the lands after the fall of Rome. By 732, they had advanced into France and were only stopped by my ancestor, Charles Martel (the Hammer) at the Battle of Tours. Reeling from this defeat, which kept Western and Northern Europe from becoming Islamacized, the Moors retreated to Andaluz, Valencia, and Murcia to rule and reign over most of the peninsula for the next 750+ years. The strictures imposed by these infidels ruling them on their own lands united the formally internecine-fighting Hispaniards into a quest to purge them, forever, known as La Reconquista.

The Christian kings of the Reconquista would often bestow honors onto soldiers who had proven themselves brave in battle. Some of these titles were adopted as peoples last names. Today we have people named "Matamoros" (Moor killer) and "Canseco" (dead and bled-out dog [dog here referring to the Muslim 'curs']). There is even a last name of Diezcansecos (ten dead bled-out, read 'dry' dogs). Because English borrows shamelessly from other languages to better craft a specific meaning that our language currently does not posses, we have borrowed heavily from the Greeks (ortho paedic) the Romans (ex post facto, etc.), the Normans, the Dutch, and even the Spanish. There are several words that we use to represent 'dog' in English: dog, canine, pooch, cur, fido. Each of these words has their root and origin. Other times, English will adopt a word that is pronounced the same as something else, but will have a different meaning, signified, and spelling: homonyms.

Most homonyms have two words that sound the same but are written differently (bear, bare). Not so the phoneme [nid] which can mean, in English, 'kneed,' 'need,' and 'knead' (mmmmmmmmmm warm bread)! A rather tragic homonymal trend is on the rise with people naming their children homonymal spellings of a word, without a true change in 'meaning,' though the signified is indeed different. As an example, I offer the R&B artist named 'Mýa' (interestingly, she is known by a mononym that is also a homonym!); I'm not sure what the acute accent above the ý does for the pronunciation; it must be an orthographic serif.

Unlike Mýa, the Mayans were a civilization that flourished in the region that now comprises southern Mexico (especially the Yucatán), Guatemala, Belize, and parts of El Salvador and Honduras. According to one wrongheaded interpretation of a stone that explains their calendar, the world will end in 2012. In 2008, I visited the Maýan ruins at Uxmal, México, and as I climbed down the steps of the Nunnery, I began to hear a crackling sound in my right knee that was both disturbing and uncomfortable. As I marched all over Mayan lands going from Uxmal to Chichén Itzá to Tulum, the crackling never went away. When I came home, I went to see my family doctor and he had me squat down and said that it sounded like I had torn my meniscus or some other cartilage had worn in the joint. As I had no pain, other than general weakness in the arthro when climbing stairs and walking on really uneven ground, I never pressed the issue with an orthopaedist (why can't you be an orthoephebist, or an orthogeronist, or even more practically, an orthoanthropist?) such as yourself. Many an athlete has suffered through O'Donoghue's triad and faced the end of their career. In baseball, the knees taking an especially bad beating, with some players such as Andre Dawson and Dale Murphy having chronic knee problems throughout their careers (e.g. J.D. Drew is made of plastic). In 1987, Andrew Dawson hit 49 homeruns, and Dale Murphy hit 44, big numbers starting a new live ball era, that would culminate in the Cream and the Clear of steroids shame tainting the game from 1988-on.

1988, the American League had some hot competition! José Canseco became the first player to hit 40 homers and steal 40 bases in a season; a big deal. His team also went to the World Series only to lose to the Codgers, with Kirk Gibson providing one of the most-awesome moments in SPORTS history. Nevertheless, Canseco won the MVP for the AL that year, reaping the contractual and secondary benefits of being the prize winner. In recent years, a repentant???? Canseco has helped "clean up" baseball by writing a tell-all confessional about his and others' exploits with steroids. The Boston Red Sox player, Mike Greenwell, obviously not a steroid user, finished second in the MVP voting in 1988. Since you are a Red Sox fan, what are your thoughts about Canseco voluntarily giving his MVP award to Greenwell, with MLB recognizing the change?

[mtnbiker]

Wow, that was a long way around the block.

[Jarid in Cedar]

Wow, that was a long way around the block.

Hell, even Garmin couldn't get you from A--->B.

[wuapinmon]

Hell, even Garmin couldn't get you from A--->B.

SQUIRREL!

[Tim]

I saw the All Blacks play the Wallabees here in Tokyo in the fall. Great match.

[Rosebud]

welcome hostile

[landpoke]

Just because I have bound in tightly to the backside of a hooker doesn't mean I'm a ho.

Prop or lock?

[hostile]

Prop or lock?

Lock, although I've played flanker and 8 as well. I played 1st five in a tournament once-that was an experience.

[landpoke]

Lock, although I've played flanker and 8 as well. I played 1st five in a tournament once-that was an experience.

Lock here, the best postion on the pitch imo.

[hostile]

Hostile, please answer the following question, but think carefully about how you answer because it may determine, in large part, the quality of our future dealings.

In 711 AD, the Moors, part of the Grand Caliphate that Osama bin Laden wants to restart, invaded the Iberian Peninsula, and quickly overran the Visigothic kings who ruled the lands after the fall of Rome. By 732, they had advanced into France and were only stopped by my ancestor, Charles Martel (the Hammer) at the Battle of Tours. Reeling from this defeat, which kept Western and Northern Europe from becoming Islamacized, the Moors retreated to Andaluz, Valencia, and Murcia to rule and reign over most of the peninsula for the next 750+ years. The strictures imposed by these infidels ruling them on their own lands united the formally internecine-fighting Hispaniards into a quest to purge them, forever, known as La Reconquista.

The Christian kings of the Reconquista would often bestow honors onto soldiers who had proven themselves brave in battle. Some of these titles were adopted as peoples last names. Today we have people named "Matamoros" (Moor killer) and "Canseco" (dead and bled-out dog [dog here referring to the Muslim 'curs']). There is even a last name of Diezcansecos (ten dead bled-out, read 'dry' dogs). Because English borrows shamelessly from other languages to better craft a specific meaning that our language currently does not posses, we have borrowed heavily from the Greeks (ortho paedic) the Romans (ex post facto, etc.), the Normans, the Dutch, and even the Spanish. There are several words that we use to represent 'dog' in English: dog, canine, pooch, cur, fido. Each of these words has their root and origin. Other times, English will adopt a word that is pronounced the same as something else, but will have a different meaning, signified, and spelling: homonyms.

Most homonyms have two words that sound the same but are written differently (bear, bare). Not so the phoneme [nid] which can mean, in English, 'kneed,' 'need,' and 'knead' (mmmmmmmmmm warm bread)! A rather tragic homonymal trend is on the rise with people naming their children homonymal spellings of a word, without a true change in 'meaning,' though the signified is indeed different. As an example, I offer the R&B artist named 'Mýa' (interestingly, she is known by a mononym that is also a homonym!); I'm not sure what the acute accent above the ý does for the pronunciation; it must be an orthographic serif.

Unlike Mýa, the Mayans were a civilization that flourished in the region that now comprises southern Mexico (especially the Yucatán), Guatemala, Belize, and parts of El Salvador and Honduras. According to one wrongheaded interpretation of a stone that explains their calendar, the world will end in 2012. In 2008, I visited the Maýan ruins at Uxmal, México, and as I climbed down the steps of the Nunnery, I began to hear a crackling sound in my right knee that was both disturbing and uncomfortable. As I marched all over Mayan lands going from Uxmal to Chichén Itzá to Tulum, the crackling never went away. When I came home, I went to see my family doctor and he had me squat down and said that it sounded like I had torn my meniscus or some other cartilage had worn in the joint. As I had no pain, other than general weakness in the arthro when climbing stairs and walking on really uneven ground, I never pressed the issue with an orthopaedist (why can't you be an orthoephebist, or an orthogeronist, or even more practically, an orthoanthropist?) such as yourself. Many an athlete has suffered through O'Donoghue's triad and faced the end of their career. In baseball, the knees taking an especially bad beating, with some players such as Andre Dawson and Dale Murphy having chronic knee problems throughout their careers (e.g. J.D. Drew is made of plastic). In 1987, Andrew Dawson hit 49 homeruns, and Dale Murphy hit 44, big numbers starting a new live ball era, that would culminate in the Cream and the Clear of steroids shame tainting the game from 1988-on.

1988, the American League had some hot competition! José Canseco became the first player to hit 40 homers and steal 40 bases in a season; a big deal. His team also went to the World Series only to lose to the Codgers, with Kirk Gibson providing one of the most-awesome moments in SPORTS history. Nevertheless, Canseco won the MVP for the AL that year, reaping the contractual and secondary benefits of being the prize winner. In recent years, a repentant???? Canseco has helped "clean up" baseball by writing a tell-all confessional about his and others' exploits with steroids. The Boston Red Sox player, Mike Greenwell, obviously not a steroid user, finished second in the MVP voting in 1988. Since you are a Red Sox fan, what are your thoughts about Canseco voluntarily giving his MVP award to Greenwell, with MLB recognizing the change?

I suppose one could view Canseco as trying to do the honorable thing by renouncing his award. It is difficult for me, however, to see his actions without an ulterior motive. Doesn't he have another book coming out? Besides, giving back the award is one thing, but how do you repay the "contractual and secondary benefits?" Two years after the award, Canseco signed a record $4.7 million/year contract. Greenwell's last contract was in '97 for $2.7million/year, in Japan.

Motive aside, I think having MLB recognize the change sets a precedent that could become troublesome. There are several other award winners who are suspected of or who have admitted to steroid use. Do those awards (MVP, Cy Young) go to the second place finisher? What about the HOF? If an award given by the BBWA and recognized by MLB can be rescinded, can HOF membership be taken back as well?

Who knows if Greenwell would have won the award anyway? Canseco was the first unanimous winner since Reggie Jackson. Greenwell and Kirby Puckett, the third place finisher, were only separated by 6 percentage points. If all the voters cast their ballots again with Canseco excluded, Puckett may end up the winner.

I think there is too many if's and potential for conjecture. Although Greenwell may be deserving, I would prefer to see the award retained by Canseco. If nothing else, it serves as a reminder of the excesses of the steroid era. Besides, karma (being the bitch that she is) may have the last say. Didn't Canseco injure his arm, as a pitcher, in a game against the Red Sox? And who can forget his 1 round knockout against the diminutive, but powerful Vai Sikahema?

To answer your question within the question, orthopaedics had it's beginning in the care of crippled children (orthos-straight, paeideion-child). Over time it has come to encompass care of the musculoskeletal system in young and old alike. There remain, however, certain areas of specialization within the field. Someone with clicking in the knee but without pain or instability may do very well being treated by a family practioner or non-operative sports medicine specialist. O'Donaghue's triad, where the knee is painful and unstable, would likely require an operative sports medicine specialist. If one decided to get drunk and crash their car into a bridge abutment and the knee is no longer connected to the femur, with pieces of windshield and fender embedded in the thigh and bone protruding through muscle and skin, well, that's where I come in.

[wuapinmon]

I suppose one could view Canseco as trying to do the honorable thing by renouncing his award. It is difficult for me, however, to see his actions without an ulterior motive. Doesn't he have another book coming out? Besides, giving back the award is one thing, but how do you repay the "contractual and secondary benefits?" Two years after the award, Canseco signed a record $4.7 million/year contract. Greenwell's last contract was in '97 for $2.7million/year, in Japan.

Motive aside, I think having MLB recognize the change sets a precedent that could become troublesome. There are several other award winners who are suspected of or who have admitted to steroid use. Do those awards (MVP, Cy Young) go to the second place finisher? What about the HOF? If an award given by the BBWA and recognized by MLB can be rescinded, can HOF membership be taken back as well?

Who knows if Greenwell would have won the award anyway? Canseco was the first unanimous winner since Reggie Jackson. Greenwell and Kirby Puckett, the third place finisher, were only separated by 6 percentage points. If all the voters cast their ballots again with Canseco excluded, Puckett may end up the winner.

I think there is too many if's and potential for conjecture. Although Greenwell may be deserving, I would prefer to see the award retained by Canseco. If nothing else, it serves as a reminder of the excesses of the steroid era. Besides, karma (being the bitch that she is) may have the last say. Didn't Canseco injure his arm, as a pitcher, in a game against the Red Sox? And who can forget his 1 round knockout against the diminutive, but powerful Vai Sikahema?

To answer your question within the question, orthopaedics had it's beginning in the care of crippled children (orthos-straight, paeideion-child). Over time it has come to encompass care of the musculoskeletal system in young and old alike. There remain, however, certain areas of specialization within the field. Someone with clicking in the knee but without pain or instability may do very well being treated by a family practioner or non-operative sports medicine specialist. O'Donaghue's triad, where the knee is painful and unstable, would likely require an operative sports medicine specialist. If one decided to get drunk and crash their car into a bridge abutment and the knee is no longer connected to the femur, with pieces of windshield and fender embedded in the thigh and bone protruding through muscle and skin, well, that's where I come in.

We shall definitely be great friends. Ahhhhh, a solid answer to a question!

[hostile]

We shall definitely be great friends. Ahhhhh, a solid answer to a question!

And I thought I stayed up late.

[wuapinmon]

And I thought I stayed up late.

Gallbladder fossa pain. I had four pain-free days, and then it started hurting again late this afternoon. Hurting bad enough that I had to take something for it, and despite their name, I do not get sleepy from Morpheus spinning gossamer in my head.