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  • #76
    Originally posted by tooblue View Post
    Under medicare for all no body would be borrowing to pay for health care.

    What's alarming is the amount of interest paid on the borrowed $88 billion :yikes:
    I don’t think you understood.
    "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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    • #77
      Originally posted by tooblue View Post
      Under medicare for all no body would be borrowing to pay for health care.

      What's alarming is the amount of interest paid on the borrowed $88 billion :yikes:
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      • #78
        "Obamacare" isn't going anywhere. Why hasn't there been a replacement even proposed by Republicans? (I've been predicting this for three years.) It's as republican as solving the health care problem gets--private markets, state regulation, choice of plan and provider. It's not going to get better than this. Republicans need to stop trying to kill it or they'll deliver themselves to single payor. I've always admired the Affordable Care Act. Attacking the ACA also helped cost Republicans the House majority, and there will be hell to pay in 2020--especially as they have no other solution. Republicans need to stop being stupid and outflank Bernie Sanders by embracing the Affordable Care Act.
        When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

        --Jonathan Swift

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        • #79
          Originally posted by Moliere View Post
          I don’t think you understood.
          Understanding you have an accounting background, what is the effective interest rate on $88 billion?

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          • #80
            Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
            "Obamacare" isn't going anywhere. Why hasn't there been a replacement even proposed by Republicans? (I've been predicting this for three years.) It's as republican as solving the health care problem gets--private markets, state regulation, choice of plan and provider. It's not going to get better than this. Republicans need to stop trying to kill it or they'll deliver themselves to single payor. I've always admired the Affordable Care Act. Attacking the ACA also helped cost Republicans the House majority, and there will be hell to pay in 2020--especially as they have no other solution. Republicans need to stop being stupid and outflank Bernie Sanders by embracing the Affordable Care Act.
            So let it be written, so let it be done. I agree with Seattle on this issue.

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            • #81
              Originally posted by tooblue View Post
              Under medicare for all no body would be borrowing to pay for health care.

              What's alarming is the amount of interest paid on the borrowed $88 billion :yikes:
              We would ALL be borrowing under Medicare for all.
              τὸν ἥλιον ἀνατέλλοντα πλείονες ἢ δυόμενον προσκυνοῦσιν

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              • #82
                Originally posted by Joe Public View Post
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                "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                  "Obamacare" isn't going anywhere. Why hasn't there been a replacement even proposed by Republicans? (I've been predicting this for three years.) It's as republican as solving the health care problem gets--private markets, state regulation, choice of plan and provider. It's not going to get better than this. Republicans need to stop trying to kill it or they'll deliver themselves to single payor. I've always admired the Affordable Care Act. Attacking the ACA also helped cost Republicans the House majority, and there will be hell to pay in 2020--especially as they have no other solution. Republicans need to stop being stupid and outflank Bernie Sanders by embracing the Affordable Care Act.
                  Pay attention. There's a national security issue on our Southern border. One thing at a time.
                  Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
                    Pay attention. There's a national security issue on our Southern border. One thing at a time.
                    People from Central America would like to come to the US. For a hardcore white nationalist that is a huge crisis. Trump's racial fears are the only way to really explain his level of hysteria over it.

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by BlueK View Post
                      People from Central America would like to come to the US. For a hardcore white nationalist that is a huge crisis. Trump's racial fears are the only way to really explain his level of hysteria over it.
                      How about we trade them California for Central America? Seems like a win-win... Californians want to become socialists. Central Americans want to leave socialism.
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                      "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
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                      GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                      • #86
                        Biden is going to bring back the Obamacare tax...

                        Biden Vows To Reinstate Obamacare’s Individual Mandate

                        Democratic presidential front-runner Joe Biden revealed Friday he would reinstate the individual mandate and penalize Americans who do not obtain health care coverage if he were to win the presidency.


                        “I think there should be health care for everyone. I have a plan how to do that that’s rational, that’ll cost a hell of a lot less and will work,” Biden told CNN’s Chris Cuomo during an interview.

                        Biden put forth that as a way to guarantee that all Americans receive health care coverage, the federal government would fine any individual who did not obtain sufficient health insurance.


                        The mandate was initially part of the Obama administration’s Affordable Care Act, more commonly referred to as Obamacare. As a way to bypass the unconstitutional requirement to force Americans to purchase insurance, the individual mandate was categorized as an income-based tax levy.


                        “Yes, yes, I’d bring back the individual mandate,” Biden replied when Cuomo inquired further about the unpopular penalty.

                        [...]
                        https://dailycaller.com/2019/07/05/b...idual-mandate/
                        "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                        "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                        "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                        GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                          Biden is going to bring back the Obamacare tax...


                          https://dailycaller.com/2019/07/05/b...idual-mandate/
                          The sad reality is that with universal health care, the middle class is going to be the ones to pony up the majority of the funding for it. At least Biden gets this while Warren and Bernie think the rich will pay for it.
                          "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                          • #88
                            https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/sta...184970240?s=19

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
                              https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/sta...184970240?s=19

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                              But at least they don't have to change doctors!
                              "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                              "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                              "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                              GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                              • #90
                                Maybe not the best thread for this, but what is going on up in BYU-I???

                                https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/24/u...ham-young.html

                                Admin says they’re not accepting Medicaid as student health insurance, claiming (bizarrely) that the influx would inundate the local health providers. University-run policy is of course more expensive, pricing out the woman highlighted in the article. It doesn’t comply with ACA, which BYU was able to get exempted from.

                                Provo and Hawaii both allow Medicaid. Maybe exposure from a NYT article will be the needed pressure to comply like the rest of BYU.
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