Have you personally ever met a college educated (to satisfy SU's, "you'd have to be illiterate and live in a closet and with an IQ of below mentally retarded" criteria) individual who confused the university of Utah with the University of Brigham?
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To be fair, if you asked anybody with an IQ over 80 to answer this question:
T/F: Brigham Young University and The University of Utah are the same institution.
I'm pretty sure everybody would know that's false. It's more the general concept that these are both schools in Utah with a lot of Mormons and people get them confused. For example this brings to mind a friend from Tennessee who tried to argue with me that Kevin Dyson played at BYU even after I corrected him that he was a Ute.
Sure that's not conflating the schools, but the fact is that football success anywhere in the state helps all the schools in the state.
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People really don't know much about Utah as a state or its college teams.Originally posted by MarkGrace View PostI've met a lot more people that didn't know utah and utah st were different schools.
After USU almost beat Auburn this year, Collin Cowherd said something like "Utah State has only been in the FBS for what, 5 years?"
Uhh.. didn't Merlin Olsen have USU ranked in the top ten nationally? No reason Collin Cowherd would know that of course, but really even most sports fans don't pay attention to Utah, BYU, or USU.
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I have to agree with this.Originally posted by CardiacCoug View PostPeople really don't know much about Utah as a state or its college teams.
After USU almost beat Auburn this year, Collin Cowherd said something like "Utah State has only been in the FBS for what, 5 years?"
Uhh.. didn't Merlin Olsen have USU ranked in the top ten nationally? No reason Collin Cowherd would know that of course, but really even most sports fans don't pay attention to Utah, BYU, or USU."Take it to the Bank"
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This doesn't surprise me.Originally posted by CardiacCoug View PostTo be fair, if you asked anybody with an IQ over 80 to answer this question:
T/F: Brigham Young University and The University of Utah are the same institution.
I'm pretty sure everybody would know that's false. It's more the general concept that these are both schools in Utah with a lot of Mormons and people get them confused. For example this brings to mind a friend from Tennessee who tried to argue with me that Kevin Dyson played at BYU even after I corrected him that he was a Ute.
Sure that's not conflating the schools, but the fact is that football success anywhere in the state helps all the schools in the state.Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!
For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.
Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."
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My experience after living outside Utah for a long time has been that for many people the state of Utah, its institutions, and Mormonism are one big undifferentiated mass. Over time this may change.“There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
― W.H. Auden
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I would submit what happened with your friend happens with a lot of states.Originally posted by CardiacCoug View PostTo be fair, if you asked anybody with an IQ over 80 to answer this question:
T/F: Brigham Young University and The University of Utah are the same institution.
I'm pretty sure everybody would know that's false. It's more the general concept that these are both schools in Utah with a lot of Mormons and people get them confused. For example this brings to mind a friend from Tennessee who tried to argue with me that Kevin Dyson played at BYU even after I corrected him that he was a Ute.
Sure that's not conflating the schools, but the fact is that football success anywhere in the state helps all the schools in the state."Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum
"And here’s what life comes down to—not how many years you live, but how many of those years are filled with bullshit that doesn’t amount to anything to satisfy the requirements of some dickhead you’ll never get the pleasure of punching in the face." – Adam Carolla
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In my experience, people conflate Utah and BYU all the time. Especially here on the east coast. I think I even shared the story of a phone interview I had for my current job.
Interviewer: (Reviewing my resume) Hey you went to BYU are you a Steelers fan by chance? I am a huge Steelers fan. What's his name, Fuamatu-Ma'afala was there the same time you were, no? I love saying that name.
Me: Uh, sorry I'm a Raiders fan. I saw him play but Ma'afala went to Utah. BYU's rival. BYU is where Chris Hoke and Brett Kiesel went to school.
Interviewer: Oh yeah, I love those guys."Nobody listens to Turtle."-Turtlesigpic
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Any adult who grew up in the U.S. who doesn't know the difference between:
University of Utah & Utah State University
University of Washington & Washington State University
University of Oregon & Oregon State University
University of Arizona & Arizona State University
University of Colorado & Colorado State University
University of Idaho & Idaho State University
University of New Mexico & New Mexico State University
University of Kansas & Kansas State University
University of Iowa & Iowa State University
University of Mississippi & Mississippi State University
University of Arkansas & Arkansas State University
University of Tennessee & Tennessee State University
University of Georgia & Georgia State University
University of Florida & Florida State University
University of Michigan & Michigan State University
or
University of Delaware & Delaware State University
... is not someone with whom I would like to have a conversation about anything related to college.
[says the guy who went to the University of Pennsylvania, not Pennsylvania State University]Last edited by Ute; 11-22-2011, 06:01 AM.
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Bonus points if you can name the city each of these university's are located without looking. Add Montana and Montana State on your list.Originally posted by Ute View PostAny adult who grew up in the U.S. who doesn't know the difference between:
University of Utah & Utah State University
University of Washington & Washington State University
University of Oregon & Oregon State University
University of Arizona & Arizona State University
University of Colorado & Colorado State University
University of Idaho & Idaho State University
University of New Mexico & New Mexico State University
University of Kansas & Kansas State University
University of Iowa & Iowa State University
University of Mississippi & Mississippi State University
University of Arkansas & Arkansas State University
University of Tennessee & Tennessee State University
University of Georgia & Georgia State University
University of Florida & Florida State University
University of Michigan & Michigan State University
or
University of Delaware & Delaware State University
... is not someone with whom I would like to have a conversation about anything related to college.
[says the guy who went to the University of Pennsylvania, not Pennsylvania State University]
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Anyone that can't distinguish between the two is not a sports fan or just doesn't care.Originally posted by Ute View PostAny adult who grew up in the U.S. who doesn't know the difference between:
University of Utah & Utah State University
Salt Lake and Logan
University of Washington & Washington State University
Seattle and Pullman
University of Oregon & Oregon State University
Eugene and Corvallis
University of Arizona & Arizona State University
Tucson and Tempe
University of Colorado & Colorado State University
Boulder and Fort Collins
University of Idaho & Idaho State University
Moscow and Pocatello
University of New Mexico & New Mexico State University
Alberquerque and Las Cruces
University of Kansas & Kansas State University
Lawrence and Manhattan
University of Iowa & Iowa State University
Iowa City and Ames
University of Mississippi & Mississippi State University
Oxford and Starkville
University of Arkansas & Arkansas State University
Fayetteville and Jonesboro
University of Tennessee & Tennessee State University
Knoxville and no idea. Middle Tennessee state is in Mufreesboro
University of Georgia & Georgia State University
Athens and Atlanta
University of Florida & Florida State University
Gainesville and Tallahassee
University of Michigan & Michigan State University
Ann Arbor and East Lansing
or
University of Delaware & Delaware State University
I will guess Dover
... is not someone with whom I would like to have a conversation about anything related to college.
[says the guy who went to the University of Pennsylvania, not Pennsylvania State University]*Banned*
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You missed Philadelphia and State College for Penn/Penn StOriginally posted by cougjunkie View PostAnyone that can't distinguish between the two is not a sports fan or just doesn't care."You interns are like swallows. You shit all over my patients for six weeks and then fly off."
"Don't be sorry, it's not your fault. It's my fault for overestimating your competence."
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No, but everyone I meet conflates Utah (be it UofU or the state) with mormon.Don't worry about people stealing your ideas. If your ideas are any good, you'll have to ram them down people's throats.
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