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    Max Hall and the aftermath

    BYU was more prepared and more controlled yesterday. They did what they had to do to win. They deserve a lot of credit for the way they played and responded in overtime.

    Which is why Hall's comments bother me. Not because of what he said necessarily, but because all anyone can talk about now is how they support/hate him and what he said, followed by why the comments might be right/wrong. No discussion about how BYU's defensive backfield played well, or that Reed/Brooks disappeared after the first quarter, or that Chambers might be the MVP of the game, or that Phillips came through every single time we needed him despite being an afterthought coming into the season.

    Another thing I hate about the comments is it fortifies the stereotype in the minds of the idiots on both sides. Because Bauman and Hall have spoken to this idea in the media, idiot BYU fans now have even more license to go off on how Ute fans are subhuman and feel it's their right to belittle red-clad supporters because they hold the moral high ground. And idiot Utah fans now feel like they should and can live up to the stereotype by demeaning and possibly even verbally abusing BYU fans.

    I love this rivalry. I got to see so many friends and people I really like yesterday, and I thoroughly enjoyed the game. I don't care how hateful Michigan/Ohio St is or how LSU and Arkansas fans don't exactly sing "Kumbaya", I don't like the idea of BYU and Utah being mortal enemies, and I don't like seeing people from either side that I enjoy being around buy into that mentality.
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    Originally posted by BoylenOver View Post
    BYU was more prepared and more controlled yesterday. They did what they had to do to win. They deserve a lot of credit for the way they played and responded in overtime.

    Which is why Hall's comments bother me. Not because of what he said necessarily, but because all anyone can talk about now is how they support/hate him and what he said, followed by why the comments might be right/wrong. No discussion about how BYU's defensive backfield played well, or that Reed/Brooks disappeared after the first quarter, or that Chambers might be the MVP of the game, or that Phillips came through every single time we needed him despite being an afterthought coming into the season.

    Another thing I hate about the comments is it fortifies the stereotype in the minds of the idiots on both sides. Because Bauman and Hall have spoken to this idea in the media, idiot BYU fans now have even more license to go off on how Ute fans are subhuman and feel it's their right to belittle red-clad supporters because they hold the moral high ground. And idiot Utah fans now feel like they should and can live up to the stereotype by demeaning and possibly even verbally abusing BYU fans.

    I love this rivalry. I got to see so many friends and people I really like yesterday, and I thoroughly enjoyed the game. I don't care how hateful Michigan/Ohio St is or how LSU and Arkansas fans don't exactly sing "Kumbaya", I don't like the idea of BYU and Utah being mortal enemies, and I don't like seeing people from either side that I enjoy being around buy into that mentality.
    Without the fringe elements on each side, who would we have to mock?

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    • #3
      I've hated Utah since the earliest I can remember I tell people that regurlarly. I guess I should be chastised, too.
      "Don't expect I'll see you 'till after the race"

      "So where does the power come from to see the race to its end...from within"

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      • #4
        Originally posted by BoylenOver View Post
        BYU was more prepared and more controlled yesterday. They did what they had to do to win. They deserve a lot of credit for the way they played and responded in overtime.

        Which is why Hall's comments bother me. Not because of what he said necessarily, but because all anyone can talk about now is how they support/hate him and what he said, followed by why the comments might be right/wrong. No discussion about how BYU's defensive backfield played well, or that Reed/Brooks disappeared after the first quarter, or that Chambers might be the MVP of the game, or that Phillips came through every single time we needed him despite being an afterthought coming into the season.

        Another thing I hate about the comments is it fortifies the stereotype in the minds of the idiots on both sides. Because Bauman and Hall have spoken to this idea in the media, idiot BYU fans now have even more license to go off on how Ute fans are subhuman and feel it's their right to belittle red-clad supporters because they hold the moral high ground. And idiot Utah fans now feel like they should and can live up to the stereotype by demeaning and possibly even verbally abusing BYU fans.

        I love this rivalry. I got to see so many friends and people I really like yesterday, and I thoroughly enjoyed the game. I don't care how hateful Michigan/Ohio St is or how LSU and Arkansas fans don't exactly sing "Kumbaya", I don't like the idea of BYU and Utah being mortal enemies, and I don't like seeing people from either side that I enjoy being around buy into that mentality.
        After perusing CB this morning I have to agree with you here. It will be interesting to see how Ute fans react next year.
        "In conclusion, let me give a shout-out to dirty sex. What a great thing it is" - Northwestcoug
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        • #5
          Originally posted by DU Ute View Post
          After perusing CB this morning I have to agree with you here. It will be interesting to see how Ute fans react next year.
          I looked at CB this morning also and was depressed. It's embarrassing to be associated with a fan base like that.
          Last edited by Non Sequitur; 11-29-2009, 10:33 AM.
          "The mind is not a boomerang. If you throw it too far it will not come back." ~ Tom McGuane

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          • #6
            Originally posted by DU Ute View Post
            After perusing CB this morning I have to agree with you here. It will be interesting to see how Ute fans react next year.
            Not well...
            "They're good. They've always been good" - David Shaw.

            Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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            • #7
              I hope that Ute fans stop all of the throwing of beer on cougar fans. Next year, I hope we throw homemade rootbeer on them instead...

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Non Sequitur View Post
                I looked at CB this morning also and was depressed. It's embarrassing to be associated with a fan base like that.
                Meh. I have that reaction every time I visit CB.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Non Sequitur View Post
                  I looked at CB this morning also and was depressed. It's embarrassing to be associated with a fan base like that.
                  The balancing effect on the board has been nearly eliminated, either by suspensions or vacating voluntarily. The defenders of the faith are left to run amuk unopposed.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by doctorcoug View Post
                    I've hated Utah since the earliest I can remember I tell people that regurlarly. I guess I should be chastised, too.
                    Like Max Hall you "hate the whole university" of Utah beacuse you hate science, you hate the humanities, you hate real history, you hate the sicentific method, and you hate a genuine search for truth. You "hate everything" except your own dogma. Good old time religion!
                    When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                    --Jonathan Swift

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                    • #11
                      I hate them because Swoop is a bird and I suffer from ornithophobia.

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                      • #12
                        I remember Sarkisian going off after the Cotton Bowl. Not as bad as Max's rant, but he talked some smack after the game.
                        Just try it once. One beer or one cigarette or one porno movie won't hurt. - Dallin H. Oaks

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by BlueHair View Post
                          I remember Sarkisian going off after the Cotton Bowl. Not as bad as Max's rant, but he talked some smack after the game.
                          About Kansas State or Utah?

                          I don't care for the Wildcats either, BTW.
                          "I don't know the origin of said bitch booming."-Art Vandelay
                          "Hot Lunch posted awhile back on this. He knows more than anyone except for maybe BO."-Seattle Ute

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by BoylenOver View Post
                            About Kansas State or Utah?

                            I don't care for the Wildcats either, BTW.
                            The Wildcats. Said they were running their mouths all week, etc. He was really animated.
                            Just try it once. One beer or one cigarette or one porno movie won't hurt. - Dallin H. Oaks

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                              Like Max Hall you "hate the whole university" of Utah beacuse you hate science, you hate the humanities, you hate real history, you hate the sicentific method, and you hate a genuine search for truth. You "hate everything" except your own dogma. Good old time religion!
                              ...or maybe he just hates assholes?
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