Rubber Match: Cougars vs. Trojans

[Flystripper]

Greg McElroy.

Wannebe Herbie....He for sure has copied Herbstreit's cadence when he calls a game. He wasn't that bad and he was rightfully calling for SC to assert their dominance at times because that is what big time programs do in those instances....USC just isn't big time anymore.

I don't mind that sort of commentary from broadcast teams because it feels so good when they are wrong.

[smokymountainrain]

Wannebe Herbie....He for sure has copied Herbstreit's cadence when he calls a game. He wasn't that bad and he was rightfully calling for SC to assert their dominance at times because that is what big time programs do in those instances....USC just isn't big time anymore.

I don't mind that sort of commentary from broadcast teams because it feels so good when they are wrong.

yup.

[chrisrenrut]

I thought I read somewhere that the referee crew was from the Big-12. Jacked-up Scott Campbell and crew. I can’t find confirmation anywhere though.

Not to excuse their incompetence in this game, or refute the PAC-12 referee’s awful track record. But may add some context to the conspiracy theories.

Edit: I’m a hack.

[imanihonjin]

Wannebe Herbie....He for sure has copied Herbstreit's cadence when he calls a game. He wasn't that bad and he was rightfully calling for SC to assert their dominance at times because that is what big time programs do in those instances....USC just isn't big time anymore.

I don't mind that sort of commentary from broadcast teams because it feels so good when they are wrong.

They will be when they hire Urb.

[Omaha 680]

When I saw we went over 400 yards of offense, I thought "I bet we haven't done that against a Power 5 opponent since Taysom and Jamaal were playing." I looked it up and I was right. Previous time was 521 yards against West Virginia in 2016. We came close later in that same season against the two MSUs, and got 392 @Arizona last year. Other than that, we have been decidedly below average offensively in the Sitake era. I know this isnt news to anyone.

The good is that it appears to be improving. Detmer was abysmal as an OC, averaging only 311 ypg against power 5 opponents, but even that was inflated by the NFL backfield he had in his first season. In 2017 he only averaged 175. Grimey is 326 overall, but already a big step up this season (357) from last season (308). With his offense going 430 last week in what may be his best-called game yet, I am cautiously optimistic he is growing into the role and will be successful.

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[Jeff Lebowski]

When I saw we went over 400 yards of offense, I thought "I bet we haven't done that against a Power 5 opponent since Taysom and Jamaal were playing." I looked it up and I was right. Previous time was 521 yards against West Virginia in 2016. We came close later in that same season against the two MSUs, and got 392 @Arizona last year. Other than that, we have been decidedly below average offensively in the Sitake era. I know this isnt news to anyone.

The good is that it appears to be improving. Detmer was abysmal as an OC, averaging only 311 ypg against power 5 opponents, but even that was inflated by the NFL backfield he had in his first season. In 2017 he only averaged 175. Grimey is 326 overall, but already a big step up this season (357) from last season (308). With his offense going 430 last week in what may be his best-called game yet, I am cautiously optimistic he is growing into the role and will be successful.

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Good post.

I could nitpick here and there, but I thought Grimes did a great job on Saturday.

[imanihonjin]

When I saw we went over 400 yards of offense, I thought "I bet we haven't done that against a Power 5 opponent since Taysom and Jamaal were playing." I looked it up and I was right. Previous time was 521 yards against West Virginia in 2016. We came close later in that same season against the two MSUs, and got 392 @Arizona last year. Other than that, we have been decidedly below average offensively in the Sitake era. I know this isnt news to anyone.

The good is that it appears to be improving. Detmer was abysmal as an OC, averaging only 311 ypg against power 5 opponents, but even that was inflated by the NFL backfield he had in his first season. In 2017 he only averaged 175. Grimey is 326 overall, but already a big step up this season (357) from last season (308). With his offense going 430 last week in what may be his best-called game yet, I am cautiously optimistic he is growing into the role and will be successful.

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I have been digging the wrinkles he has added and seems to call at the right time. Calls like the reverse against Tennessee in OT and the reverse pass from Hall to Wilson in this game. Not to mention the clear set up plays to get the D headed in one direction and then calling the counter later in the game.

[wapiti]

I have been digging the wrinkles he has added and seems to call at the right time. Calls like the reverse against Tennessee in OT and the reverse pass from Hall to Wilson in this game. Not to mention the clear set up plays to get the D headed in one direction and then calling the counter later in the game.

And the call of the night: Wilson's QB draw for a TD.

[Donuthole]

And the call of the night: Wilson's QB draw for a TD.

Yeah, perfect call with SC sending extra pressure from the edge.

[MartyFunkhouser]

They will be when they hire Urb.

I think we all know what will happen with Meyer. He will come in, the program will immediately get better, he will win a NC, and then after a few years it will end on a bad note and he will retire again.

[Joe Public]

And the call of the night: Wilson's QB draw for a TD.

Yeah, perfect call with SC sending extra pressure from the edge.

The replay camera angle on that play was essentially from Wilson's point of view, looking toward the end zone. After the snap, there was nothing but green grass (and the umpire or whoever) between Wilson and the end zone. It was just a race to see how much ground he could cover before they closed back in.

[imanihonjin]

I think we all know what will happen with Meyer. He will come in, the program will immediately get better, he will win a NC, and then after a few years it will end on a bad note and he will retire again.

You forgot to add that he will retire again due to health concerns because he is just so damn competitive.

[Jeff Lebowski]

The replay camera angle on that play was essentially from Wilson's point of view, looking toward the end zone. After the snap, there was nothing but green grass (and the umpire or whoever) between Wilson and the end zone. It was just a race to see how much ground he could cover before they closed back in.

Yeah. The ref was right in the way so he had to change his angle a bit.

[Goatnapper'96]

When I saw we went over 400 yards of offense, I thought "I bet we haven't done that against a Power 5 opponent since Taysom and Jamaal were playing." I looked it up and I was right. Previous time was 521 yards against West Virginia in 2016. We came close later in that same season against the two MSUs, and got 392 @Arizona last year. Other than that, we have been decidedly below average offensively in the Sitake era. I know this isnt news to anyone.

The good is that it appears to be improving. Detmer was abysmal as an OC, averaging only 311 ypg against power 5 opponents, but even that was inflated by the NFL backfield he had in his first season. In 2017 he only averaged 175. Grimey is 326 overall, but already a big step up this season (357) from last season (308). With his offense going 430 last week in what may be his best-called game yet, I am cautiously optimistic he is growing into the role and will be successful.

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And to be honest it is without any real surefire NFL skill players. Perhaps Ty'son Williams. One aspect is I agree with the Johnny Football comparisons for Zach Wilson. I am skeptical Zach will be an NFL qb, but I am similarly convinced he is going to be a fabulous college qb. He has enough athleticism, quick feet, decisiveness and pocket instincts to create a lot of memorable plays the next few years. I really like Grimes.

I wish Sitake could be less emotional but that is just him I suppose. We take the good the energetic and exuberant hugging of the fans along with the failing to just take the damn points and move on. I do think he has a better eye for talent than Mendenhall had. One thing I am learning is that not all 2 and 3 star recruits are alike. BYU looks to me like they are physically matching up better with these elite teams like they did in Mendenhall first few years when he was feasting on much of that talent Crowton recruited.

Funnest 4 hours I have spent at LES ever. I enjoyed it more than I did when Taysom took Texas to the woodshed as IMO this is more a function of the team than just one uber gifted stud.

* edit added- there are some NFL kids on BYU's offense. I think some of the OL will play in the league, Bushman, Williams and perhaps Wilson. I am just saying that the talent level of the kids playing offense is not something that I believe is so rare for BYU and unobtainable that this team is a just lightning in a bottle. I think Zach's playmaking skills might be the most difficult for BYU to consistently find. Next would be Ty'son, but I think BYU has had good runningbacks like him fairly consistently. Not every year but 2-3 of that capability per decade.

[beefytee]

It was a Big 12 crew.

The Pac-10 used to always have their official ref their home games (backwards from everyone else). I assume that hasn't changed.