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I hear Scalley is a really great guy. Would be nice to see him succeed somewhere. Preferably not Utah!
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If he gets passed over for Utah’s head coach when Kyle leaves, then I could easily see him looking South as a real possibility.Originally posted by falafel View PostReally? You don't think a young guy like him wouldn't jump at the chance to be a head coach at a nationally relevant-ish program within his home state?
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Really? You don't think a young guy like him wouldn't jump at the chance to be a head coach at a nationally relevant-ish program within his home state?Originally posted by frank ryan View PostSo Scalley briefly considered coming on to the BYU's staff when Kalani was hired. He was pissed he wasn't Utah's D-Coordinator at time. I don't think that he'd be interested in the BYU head coaching, especially if it was offered after Kalani would have departed.
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Originally posted by originalsocal View PostAgreed, my last post was tic obviously, but Kalani is probably our best bet for now. He is a decent man, who won't dishonor the school and has some coaching ability. The one thing missing is experience. I have noticed growth, albeit slow, but growth this good.
To be fair though, I have adjusted my expectations for the program significantly. Since that time, I've been pretty happy with the team and the journey. Much more fun that way.
I am firm believer in maintaining low expectations. It results a lower-stress lifestyle.
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Agreed, my last post was tic obviously, but Kalani is probably our best bet for now. He is a decent man, who won't dishonor the school and has some coaching ability. The one thing missing is experience. I have noticed growth, albeit slow, but growth this good.Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostWhich is why it would be dumb to ditch Kalani at this stage in the game.
To be fair though, I have adjusted my expectations for the program significantly. Since that time, I've been pretty happy with the team and the journey. Much more fun that way.
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That's not a bad ceiling. The 90s Utes were so fun! They occasionally were ranked in the top ten (!!!!), only to lose their spot due to an inexplicable loss to New Mexico or Air Force. And my all-time, never to be beat, in-person sports moment happened under MAFU: Yergensen. Plus, the cast of characters he convinced to come to Utah (a school with zero recent success) is pretty astounding: Jamal Anderson, Steve Smith, Eric Weddle, Alex Smith, Chris Mafala, to name but a few.Originally posted by BigFatMeanie View PostWithout a change to the fundamentals of the institution or the college football ecosystem, Utah during the MAFU era may be BYU's ceiling.
What should really give fans pause for thought is that BYU's admin might understand and accept this ceiling.
You guys talk like the comparison to McBride is an insult to Sitake. Frankly, I don't think Sitake has done much to merit the comparison to the great MAFU, other than lose to teams he has no right to lose to.
(That being said, I think BYU was smart to lock down Sitake for a couple more years. He's the best available.)
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Which is why it would be dumb to ditch Kalani at this stage in the game.Originally posted by smokymountainrain View Posti agree with that. but ultimately none of us know where any of these guys stand despite our best guesses.
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i agree with that. but ultimately none of us know where any of these guys stand despite our best guesses.Originally posted by frank ryan View PostSo Scalley briefly considered coming on to the BYU's staff when Kalani was hired. He was pissed he wasn't Utah's D-Coordinator at time. I don't think that he'd be interested in the BYU head coaching, especially if it was offered after Kalani would have departed.
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Even thought the recruiting classes haven't been ranked, he still has upgraded talent and depth. The class rankings don't take into account transfers or typically even post mission transfers. So Austin Lee, James Empey, Khyris Tonga, Ty'Son Williams, Tristen Hoge, Joe Tukuafu, Dylan Collie, Mo Unatoa etc don't count. Given the shackles the administration gives him in terms of recruiting budget and draconian admissions rules, he done decent.Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostI get the reservations about Kalani. I have a few myself. However:
1) The players and recruits seem to genuinely love him. That is significant and a good sign.
2) Yes, he loses some games we should win, but he has shown that he can win big games. Road game at Tennessee. USC. Boise State. Utah State. Those were all impressive wins. Ditto for Wisconsin last year.
3) Given our limited candidate pool, it would be stupid to ditch him under the current circumstances. He has very much earned an extension. Now lets see what he does.
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Without a change to the fundamentals of the institution or the college football ecosystem, Utah during the MAFU era may be BYU's ceiling.Originally posted by creeksterWhile I agree with your sentiments here, as I skimmed through the thread I first thought you might be talking about Ron McBride.
What should really give fans pause for thought is that BYU's admin might understand and accept this ceiling.
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So Scalley briefly considered coming on to the BYU's staff when Kalani was hired. He was pissed he wasn't Utah's D-Coordinator at time. I don't think that he'd be interested in the BYU head coaching, especially if it was offered after Kalani would have departed.Originally posted by smokymountainrain View Postis kellen moore a candidate? morgan scalley? jay hill? lance anderson? ken n? dr bob? how many that i didn't mention are candidates?
of the guys i listed, i can take my guesses (as can you), but i (nor you) have any real clue where any of these guys are at in terms of their interest in the byu job or byu's interest in them or how much byu is willing to pay them.
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Morgan Scalley=That prick up northOriginally posted by smokymountainrain View Postis kellen moore a candidate? morgan scalley?
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is kellen moore a candidate? morgan scalley? jay hill? lance anderson? ken n? dr bob? how many that i didn't mention are candidates?Originally posted by LiveCoug View PostBecause of the requirements placed on who is allowed to be a head coach at BYU, we know exactly who the candidates are
of the guys i listed, i can take my guesses (as can you), but i (nor you) have any real clue where any of these guys are at in terms of their interest in the byu job or byu's interest in them or how much byu is willing to pay them.Last edited by smokymountainrain; 11-21-2019, 11:32 AM.
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Can you teach the single wing formation?Originally posted by All-American View PostBased on how expansive your list is, might as well throw my hat in the ring.
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