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  • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    Cheer up, amigos. If you think about the length of this losing streak in geologic time, it is the blink of an eye.
    Snapshot in time. Love ya, miss ya SU!
    Get confident, stupid
    -landpoke

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    • One of the frustrating/crazy things about this streak is that when we are good, they are just a little better. When they are bad, we happen to be just a little worse. With a decent offense, I think we win that game last night by 10-14 pts. Our defense was solid, especially considering that they got zero help from the offense in terms of momentum, field position, turnovers. And last year Utah turns it over six times and we lose by one point. Lots of blown chances.
      "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
      "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
      "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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      • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
        One of the frustrating/crazy things about this streak is that when we are good, they are just a little better. When they are bad, we happen to be just a little worse. With a decent offense, I think we win that game last night by 10-14 pts. Our defense was solid, especially considering that they got zero help from the offense in terms of momentum, field position, turnovers. And last year Utah turns it over six times and we lose by one point. Lots of blown chances.
        See, people talk about Utah breaking away from BYU, talent gap, P5, etc., but I think they're overstating things. Utah's winning each of these games by a touchdown or less. It's not that they're getting better; they're just a step or two ahead of us, but they're consistently staying a step or two ahead of us. The gap isn't that big; it's just persistent.
        τὸν ἥλιον ἀνατέλλοντα πλείονες ἢ δυόμενον προσκυνοῦσιν

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        • Originally posted by All-American View Post
          See, people talk about Utah breaking away from BYU, talent gap, P5, etc., but I think they're overstating things. Utah's winning each of these games by a touchdown or less. It's not that they're getting better; they're just a step or two ahead of us, but they're consistently staying a step or two ahead of us. The gap isn't that big; it's just persistent.
          This persistent gap is more than mildly irritating. For football to be fun, you need some entertaining play and to defeat your rival regularly or at least now then and not, and not on geologic time.
          "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

          Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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          • Originally posted by Topper View Post
            This persistent gap is more than mildly irritating. For football to be fun, you need some entertaining play and to defeat your rival regularly or at least now then and not, and not on geologic time.
            #Toppersubstance
            Prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them, along with this slice of humble pie that comes direct from the oven of shame set at gas mark “egg on your face”! -- Moss

            There's three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who's got the same first name as a city; and never go near a lady's got a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, everything else is cream cheese. --Coach Finstock

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            • Originally posted by All-American View Post
              See, people talk about Utah breaking away from BYU, talent gap, P5, etc., but I think they're overstating things. Utah's winning each of these games by a touchdown or less. It's not that they're getting better; they're just a step or two ahead of us, but they're consistently staying a step or two ahead of us. The gap isn't that big; it's just persistent.
              Going back 15 years, what's the average difference on where we finish in computer rankings. I'd guess it's about 15 spots. 25ish to 40ish. Maybe more. The difference seems significant but I'm basing this on gut feeling not data.
              Last edited by jay santos; 09-10-2017, 10:01 AM.

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              • Originally posted by Donuthole View Post
                #Toppersubstance
                #DHsubstance
                "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

                Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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                • Slept on it and feel fine. We are what we are. It sucks that Utah has everything we want, but it is what it is.

                  Now to find out who put go utes on my front door.

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                  • Originally posted by LiveCoug View Post
                    Slept on it and feel fine. We are what we are. It sucks that Utah has everything we want, but it is what it is.

                    Now to find out who put go utes on my front door.
                    Paint or in some other harmless form?

                    Why did Ula not feature more in the run offense? It seems as if he offers something the others do not.
                    "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

                    Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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                    • Originally posted by Topper View Post
                      Paint or in some other harmless form?

                      Why did Ula not feature more in the run offense? It seems as if he offers something the others do not.
                      Harmless. Paper and tape.

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                      • Originally posted by LiveCoug View Post
                        Harmless. Paper and tape.
                        With the defacing of the Cougar statue, I wondered.
                        "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

                        Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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                        • Originally posted by jay santos View Post
                          Going back 15 years, what's the average difference on where we finish in computer rankings. I'd guess it's about 15 spots. 25ish to 40ish. Maybe more. The difference seems significant but I'm basing this on gut feeling not data.
                          I'd like to know that, though I'm too lazy to look it up. I'd bet it's not that far. Haven't we been pretty close, even in the last few years? I thought somebody said we were even above them once or twice during this streak (cold comfort).
                          τὸν ἥλιον ἀνατέλλοντα πλείονες ἢ δυόμενον προσκυνοῦσιν

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                          • Originally posted by All-American View Post
                            I'd like to know that, though I'm too lazy to look it up. I'd bet it's not that far. Haven't we been pretty close, even in the last few years? I thought somebody said we were even above them once or twice during this streak (cold comfort).
                            I looked at that after last season. Here are the Massey composite rankings. You're right it's very cold comfort.

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                            • Originally posted by SCcoug View Post
                              I looked at that after last season. Here are the Massey composite rankings. You're right it's very cold comfort.
                              Fascinating. Thanks for compiling that.
                              "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                              "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                              "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                              • respect to jic, funk et al for staying away for the mandatory period
                                Te Occidere Possunt Sed Te Edere Non Possunt Nefas Est.

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