Originally posted by All-American
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I like where you're going with the transportation but I would do it differently. You need a belt route around the eastern side of Utah County. It would start at the point of the mountain and meet up with I-15 south of Provo. One exit would be to the University at about 9th East. The result would be great traffic flow to the Stadium.
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That'd make access to Sundance and Provo canyon much nicer too. Not to mention the logjam that is Highland.Originally posted by KillerDog View PostI like where you're going with the transportation but I would do it differently. You need a belt route around the eastern side of Utah County. It would start at the point of the mountain and meet up with I-15 south of Provo. One exit would be to the University at about 9th East. The result would be great traffic flow to the Stadium."Nobody listens to Turtle."-Turtlesigpic
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While I agree with you the ship has sailed on that matter. If UT valley had had some sort of planning in place fifty years ago then I could see that being a reality but the fact is there wasn't and so we have a hodgepodge of networks running together through what used to be orchards and pastures.Originally posted by KillerDog View PostI like where you're going with the transportation but I would do it differently. You need a belt route around the eastern side of Utah County. It would start at the point of the mountain and meet up with I-15 south of Provo. One exit would be to the University at about 9th East. The result would be great traffic flow to the Stadium.
There is no way the east side of UT valley will have a belt route put in unless they put it halfway up the mountain above the houses that are already there. The benches are the most affluent areas of the valley's cities and there's no way that the residents would let that happen. There was talk in the 90s of making a double decker type highway like you see in the Bay area. The proposal included taking parts of 16th north and 8th east in Orem as a possible route. IIRC there were even some exploratory meetings held. It went nowhere because they soon realized that finding a corridor big enough to sustain even a small belt loop would be met with enough resistance to prevent its construction.
There have been many times that I have lamented UT valley planning and wished that someone somewhere had said "You know, this place is probably going to get really big some day, we should make plans to allow for future growth." Wishful thinking.Dio perdona tante cose per un’opera di misericordia
God forgives many things for an act of mercyAlessandro Manzoni
Knock it off. This board has enough problems without a dose of middle-age lechery.
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Agreed. But with enough money anything can happen. Which also means that this will never happen.Originally posted by pellegrino View PostWhile I agree with you the ship has sailed on that matter. If UT valley had had some sort of planning in place fifty years ago then I could see that being a reality but the fact is there wasn't and so we have a hodgepodge of networks running together through what used to be orchards and pastures.
There is no way the east side of UT valley will have a belt route put in unless they put it halfway up the mountain above the houses that are already there. The benches are the most affluent areas of the valley's cities and there's no way that the residents would let that happen. There was talk in the 90s of making a double decker type highway like you see in the Bay area. The proposal included taking parts of 16th north and 8th east in Orem as a possible route. IIRC there were even some exploratory meetings held. It went nowhere because they soon realized that finding a corridor big enough to sustain even a small belt loop would be met with enough resistance to prevent its construction.
There have been many times that I have lamented UT valley planning and wished that someone somewhere had said "You know, this place is probably going to get really big some day, we should make plans to allow for future growth." Wishful thinking.
I just don't understand it either when you consider the geography. It doesn't take a genius to look at the mountains on the east and a big lake on the west to see where your sprawl is limited to.
The planning in most of Utah is a joke. Don't get me started on Tooele."Nobody listens to Turtle."-Turtlesigpic
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It's odd considering Joseph and Brigham's penchant for extensive city planning.Originally posted by pellegrino View Post
There have been many times that I have lamented UT valley planning and wished that someone somewhere had said "You know, this place is probably going to get really big some day, we should make plans to allow for future growth." Wishful thinking.
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Unfortunately Joseph's penchant for city planning is now regarded as a 19th century curiosity to make pedestrian points about the centrality of temple worship.Originally posted by JohnnyLingo View PostIt's odd considering Joseph and Brigham's penchant for extensive city planning.
Straight from the Gospel Doctrine manual:
Explain that in late June 1833, the Prophet Joseph Smith sent a plat for the construction of the city of Zion to the Saints in Independence, Missouri.
Display the plat for the city of Zion, shown below. Explain that in the center of the city the Saints were to build a temple. Although they were not able to build the city of Zion, they followed this concept when building Salt Lake City.
• What can we learn from the plan to build a temple at the center of the city of Zion? (Answers may include that the temple is a center of learning for members of the Church and that we should put the temple at the center of our lives.)Dio perdona tante cose per un’opera di misericordia
God forgives many things for an act of mercyAlessandro Manzoni
Knock it off. This board has enough problems without a dose of middle-age lechery.
pelagius
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