The PAC 11 Expansion Groundswell

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  • Jeff Lebowski
    Corporate lackey for Jesus
    • Nov 2008
    • 69582

    #1

    The PAC 11 Expansion Groundswell

    Let's get this baby going. Those dumb hippies at Cal are so hopelessly in debt that they might have to drop athletics.

    http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/01/2...tounding-rate/

    Cal chancellor Nicholas Dirks has formed a task force to recommend a sustainable athletic model. The group is likely months away from issuing its conclusions, but the elimination of sports teams is a potential, if not likely, outcome.
    "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
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  • YOhio
    Hipster Mode
    • Nov 2008
    • 26165

    #2
    That's incredible. I think we'll be seeing a lot more of this over the next few years, particularly in the lower divisions. Just too much of a resource requirement during a time of disruption.

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    • Shaka
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2008
      • 10448

      #3
      Originally posted by YOhio View Post
      That's incredible. I think we'll be seeing a lot more of this over the next few years, particularly in the lower divisions. Just too much of a resource requirement during a time of disruption.
      I agree. The first domino is tilting.

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      • Jeff Lebowski
        Corporate lackey for Jesus
        • Nov 2008
        • 69582

        #4
        Originally posted by YOhio View Post
        That's incredible. I think we'll be seeing a lot more of this over the next few years, particularly in the lower divisions. Just too much of a resource requirement during a time of disruption.
        Agreed. Fun to laugh, but this is kind of scary.
        "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
        "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
        "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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        • myboynoah
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2008
          • 21719

          #5
          So servicing the debt is killing them. Doesn't Cal have some big donors that can bring that principal down. In the end they just eliminate some sports, but football and basketball don't go away. What are the minimal sports requirements for the PAC?
          Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

          For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

          Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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          • Uncle Ted
            The Big 12 money shot.
            • Apr 2010
            • 28853

            #6
            Originally posted by YOhio View Post
            That's incredible. I think we'll be seeing a lot more of this over the next few years, particularly in the lower divisions and in the PAC-12. Just too much of a resource requirement during a time of disruption.
            FIFY.

            The $4+ million dollar Larry Scott man screwed the PAC-12 with their network:

            Long story short, the Pac-12 may have made one inadvertent and one deliberate mistake: they may have negotiated their rights deal too early and their insistence on being the sole owner of the Pac-12 Network is killing them on revenue. The conference agreed to a deal with Fox and ESPN back in 2011 but it's not up for another seven years. Unless the league can renegotiate parts of the deal, we're still years away from the schools in this conference raking in even close to what their counterparts in the Big Ten and SEC will.


            How much more will each team in those conferences make? $10 million.


            And lets not pretend like that short fall will only effect schools like your WSUs, your Oregon States, your Utahs. Nuh-uh. Over the remaining life of the deal, Michigan is set to rake in $80 million more than USC, UCLA, Oregon, Washington, Stanford, all schools that consider themselves the class of the Pac-12; all schools that are now in an all out fight of keeping up with the Harbaughs they surely won't win.

            Want me to make it worse? Here's Wilner:

            $10 million gap per school X 12 schools X eight years = $960 million shortfall in total conference revenue.


            Basically: One billion.

            Remember when we all thought this deal was so fantastic? Wasn't it great?
            The revenue picture isn’t rosy for fiscal year 2015. But we’re most of the way through 2016 and that could look a whole lot worse.


            The PAC-12 will be leaving a billion dollars on the table! Why hasn't Larry been fired?
            "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
            "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
            "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
            GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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            • Applejack
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2012
              • 3812

              #7
              Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
              So servicing the debt is killing them. Doesn't Cal have some big donors that can bring that principal down. In the end they just eliminate some sports, but football and basketball don't go away. What are the minimal sports requirements for the PAC?
              There were rumors that the new football stadium came in $100 million OVER bid. That's a large chunk of change.

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              • Jeff Lebowski
                Corporate lackey for Jesus
                • Nov 2008
                • 69582

                #8
                Originally posted by Applejack View Post
                There were rumors that the new football stadium came in $100 million OVER bid. That's a large chunk of change.
                Holy crap.
                "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                • Moliere
                  One man.....one pie
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 27835

                  #9
                  Sounds more like Cal just isn't fiscally responsible. It's no secret that the SEC and B1G are the top two conferences in money. Football isn't going away because of money, but it'll continue to be more and more lopsided as the years go by and those teams collect tons more cash.


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                  • byu71
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 22070

                    #10
                    I would like to see the"hippies" start protesting the amount of money spent at great Academic institutions like Cal and Stanford on athletics. Those institutions should take the examples of Harvard and Yale when it comes to athletics.

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                    • HuskyFreeNorthwest
                      Time to camp
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 26082

                      #11
                      Probably a wise move to fire and pay Dykes and his staff as well as Wilcox and his staff.
                      Get confident, stupid
                      -landpoke

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                      • OceanBlue
                        Junior Member
                        • May 2012
                        • 860

                        #12
                        I read an article at the start of Scott's tenure that he thought he could tap into the Asian market because of the PAC-12 geographic footprint. He might want to try getting that going sooner then later.

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                        • chrisrenrut
                          Strikes and Gutters
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 2274

                          #13
                          Originally posted by OceanBlue View Post
                          I read an article at the start of Scott's tenure that he thought he could tap into the Asian market because of the PAC-12 geographic footprint. He might want to try getting that going sooner then later.
                          It has started, but its effectiveness is still in question.

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                          • Jeff Lebowski
                            Corporate lackey for Jesus
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 69582

                            #14
                            Originally posted by OceanBlue View Post
                            I read an article at the start of Scott's tenure that he thought he could tap into the Asian market because of the PAC-12 geographic footprint. He might want to try getting that going sooner then later.
                            Good grief, don't UCLA and Cal already have enough Asian premed majors?
                            "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                            "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                            "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                            • Moliere
                              One man.....one pie
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 27835

                              #15


                              I wonder what Clemson paid for this...
                              "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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