Neb. is a top 30-60 team: now and forever

[falafel]

Reading comprehension, amigo. Nothing in that table contradicts what CMBF said.

Nothing of what CMBF said about Michigan has anything to do with football, so...

[Jeff Lebowski]

CMBF PBW

Can't F*@ w that grid.

Reading comprehension, amigo. Nothing in that table contradicts what CMBF said.

[Omaha 680]

The rape case and the crappy season have made them kind of relevant lately.

Well, not so much the crappy season. People did talk a lot about the Hail Mary though!

[Jeff Lebowski]

Nebraska will once again be relevant;

The rape case and the crappy season have made them kind of relevant lately.

[Commando]

How about we compare Michigan and Nebraska football for the past 50 years.

School	W-L-T	Win Pct.	National titles	Heismans
Michigan	433-158-8	.730	1	2
Nebraska	475-139-5	.771	5	3

CMBF PBW

Can't F*@ w that grid.

[Paperback Writer]

Tom Osbourne was one of the top 5 college coaches of all time. After he retired and kids forgot about Nebraska's dominance of the mid 90s, Nebraska ceased being relevant.

Michigan is a big state surrounded by other big states. It's also an elite school academically. There's no comparison between Michigan and Nebraska.

While I agree Nebraska is not as relevant today as it was from 1970-2001, kicking dirt on the grave of the Cornhuskers is premature. Nebraska and Michigan are very comparable when it comes to football. Nebraska has to recruit nationally more so than most programs and has done so for decades. So Michigan does enjoy some advantages because of location but having the "right" coach is a much greater factor. And while Nebraska is not in the same academic tier as Michigan, the majority of football players are not attending college for academics; otherwise Stanford would be on top of the college football world every year. Nebraska is a solid academic school and does have a good reputation for graduating its players. With the "right" coach, Nebraska will once again be relevant; fifty years of history is not easily buried. It remains to be seen if Mike Riley is the "right" coach.

How about we compare Michigan and Nebraska football for the past 50 years.

School	W-L-T	Win Pct.	National titles	Heismans
Michigan	433-158-8	.730	1	2
Nebraska	475-139-5	.771	5	3

[Jeff Lebowski]

I didn't say the Big 8 was down, I said the Texas schools were down because of the SWC.

Tom Osbourne was one of the top 5 college coaches of all time. After he retired and kids forgot about Nebraska's dominance of the mid 90s, Nebraska ceased being relevant.

Michigan is a big state surrounded by other big states. It's also an elite school academically. There's no comparison between Michigan and Nebraska.

[Color Me Badd Fan]

I said the "right" coach. Why does it have to be a big name? I agree that Nebraska is unlikely to get a Chip Kelly anytime soon. But a Nebraska guy who turns out to be a great coach coming home again is completely possible. That's where this discussion started: with Scott Frost.

We're still talking about Nebraska!

Edit: and I think the geography argument is bunk. Leach recruited guys to Lubbock and now Pullman. Snyder gets guys to come to Manhattan, KS. And what's so great about Columbus, OH? Yeah having your school in Florida or SoCal is a huge advantage but ultimately kids are going to go with the coach who they trust the most and think can help their football career the most.

Leach was still in Texas and he only had one year when they were seriously contending.

K State benefited when the Texas schools were down in the 90s. When the Longhorns were good a few years after Mack Brown came in, Stoops arriving in Oklahoma and now TCU and Baylor emerging, K State likewise ceased to be relevant.

[Color Me Badd Fan]

Oh, brother. Nebraska has a comination of history, fan support, and facilities to rival almost any school. Yeah Lincoln is not glamorous and never will be but all it takes is the right coach to be able get the talent to come and put it together on the field. You could have said "I don't know how Michigan turns it around at this point" a few years back. We'll they got their coach and now things are going to be fine.

And to say Osborne dominated the 90s because the Big 8 was down is dumb. Snyder had already built his program at that point and Colorado was a perennial top 10 team.

I didn't say the Big 8 was down, I said the Texas schools were down because of the SWC.

Tom Osbourne was one of the top 5 college coaches of all time. After he retired and kids forgot about Nebraska's dominance of the mid 90s, Nebraska ceased being relevant.

Michigan is a big state surrounded by other big states. It's also an elite school academically. There's no comparison between Michigan and Nebraska.

[Commando]

Boise St. was the I-AA Champion in 1980.

Ok so not exactly the same. Losing to them in 1980 is probably worse than losing to Idaho State in 1981, then.

[Paperback Writer]

OMG. Utah was destined to be snakebit by Boise State. Losing to them in 1980 is probably worse than losing to Idaho State right now.

Boise St. was the I-AA Champion in 1980.

[Commando]

Not everybody. Just Nebraska and BYU. Utah's (5-5-1) 1980 season:

Date	Team	Result	Score
9/6/80	Boise St (8-3: non-IA)	L	7-28
9/13/80	@ Nebraska (10-2)	L	9-55
9/20/80	vs UNLV (7-4)	W	45-29
9/27/80	Fresno St. (5-6)	W	27-12
10/4/80	@ Utah St. (6-5)	W	23-19
10/11/80	@ UTEP (1-11)	W	31-7
10/18/80	@ Wyoming (6-5)	L	21-24
10/25/80	Colorado St. (6-4-1)	T	21-21
11/8/80	New Mexico (4-7)	W	49-21
11/22/80	BYU (12-1)	L	6-56
11/29/80	@ San Diego St. (4-8)	L	20-21

OMG. Utah was destined to be snakebit by Boise State. Losing to them in 1980 is probably worse than losing to Idaho State right now.

[dabrockster]

No kidding. At least dabrockster shows us the courtesy of keeping his Ohio State crap in a dedicated thread.

At the end of the season I thought about creating the "Official Big 10 is BACK Thread".. Might be a good place for Nebraska fans.

Plus having 3 teams in the top 6 kinda helps..

[Paperback Writer]

Knock it off. Everybody was beating Utah by scores like that back then.

Not everybody. Just Nebraska and BYU. Utah's (5-5-1) 1980 season:

Date	Team	Result	Score
9/6/80	Boise St (8-3: non-IA)	L	7-28
9/13/80	@ Nebraska (10-2)	L	9-55
9/20/80	UNLV (7-4)	W	45-29
9/27/80	Fresno St. (5-6)	W	27-12
10/4/80	@ Utah St. (6-5)	W	23-19
10/11/80	@ UTEP (1-11)	W	31-7
10/18/80	@ Wyoming (6-5)	L	21-24
10/25/80	Colorado St. (6-4-1)	T	21-21
11/8/80	New Mexico (4-7)	W	49-21
11/22/80	BYU (12-1)	L	6-56
11/29/80	@ San Diego St. (4-8)	L	20-21

[Flystripper]

I believe I still own thenakedindian.com if we are suggesting name changes.

glad you finally made peace with your cowboy counterpart.

http://pagesix.com/2013/08/10/cowboy-indian-make-peace/