Neb. is a top 30-60 team: now and forever

[Applejack]

This thread is a good lesson for all of us in humility. You can't argue with facts:

Utah is where quarterbacks fear to tread. Embrace it.
Nebraska is boring as hell and has Mike Reilly as a coach. Embrace it.
BYU is owned by its rival and is sexist/racist. Embrace it.

[Green Monstah]

It is cute that you think that was my point. Shows how much you still view the world through a Utah hating lens. I have no illusions that the Utes have been as successful as TCU. TCU started out with more talent and play in a weaker conference. Utah has taken its lumps, but I am satisfied with the trajectory. I don't have any delusion that the Utes will be supplanting USC, UCLA as top dog in the P-12 South, but will be pushing them at every turn.

The point is that BYu fans in general have a warped sense of where they sit now and over the last 15 years. Very similar to the Nebraska fans posting in this thread. And it is funny to watch you all lecture PBW and Omaha about how they should have realistic expectations about their team and where they stand in the CFB world.

Do any fans on CS have this warped sense of where BYU sits? I don't live in Utah, and only lived there during college, but this is a claim I constantly hear, and I'm not sure that it squares with my experience.

[Color Me Badd Fan]

Who was the poster that told me to f+++ myself when I said that Utah should expect the level of success Arizona and Arizona State had achieved since they joined the Pac 10 back in the late 70s?

While there is an undeniable level of myopia with BYU fans as evidenced by the posters at CB, I think most posters here are much more reasonable with their expectations. In contrast, Utah fans on here were telling me to go masturbate when I told them exactly how things were going to end up for them.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Some of these guys are too easy. I hope this wasn't the caliber of poster you were trying to attract with the programming change.

If you think it is bad here, you should see the dunces over on LA Ute's board.

[imanihonjin]

Some of these guys are too easy. I hope this wasn't the caliber of poster you were trying to attract with the programming change.

Says the guy with "burns" from the 80's. Although, this is a good spot for you, many here think they are far better at almost everything than they really are.

[imanihonjin]

It is cute that you think that was my point. Shows how much you still view the world through a Utah hating lens. I have no illusions that the Utes have been as successful as TCU. TCU started out with more talent and play in a weaker conference. Utah has taken its lumps, but I am satisfied with the trajectory. I don't have any delusion that the Utes will be supplanting USC, UCLA as top dog in the P-12 South, but will be pushing them at every turn.

The point is that BYu fans in general have a warped sense of where they sit now and over the last 15 years. Very similar to the Nebraska fans posting in this thread. And it is funny to watch you all lecture PBW and Omaha about how they should have realistic expectations about their team and where they stand in the CFB world.

You are the one who put the Utes in the same class as TCU in describing what BYU is not. I don't disagree that there are many BYU fans who have unrealistic expectations, but there are an equal proportion of Ute fans who also feel that way about Utah, so I am not sure what your point is.

Feel free to link to any of my posts that have stating anything close to the fact that I think BYU should be competing every year on a national level. So, I am not sure exactly why it is funny for you, but go ahead an keep on laughing if want. It doesn't bother me. I hope it doesn't bother you that I am laughing at you for thinking that Utah will push (whatever that means) the top dogs of the PAC 12 "at every turn".

[Jarid in Cedar]

Not this year!

Nope. Glaring deficits in the most important position on the field undermined a stellar season. Helton should offer TW a grad assistant position. I think his performance against USC was a big reason that the Trojans turned their season around, and ultimately why Helton is now the permanent HC. In a twisted way, maybe Ute fans should be thankful for Travis in that he may have single handedly kept USC from hiring Chip Kelly.

[Jarid in Cedar]

Some of these guys are too easy. I hope this wasn't the caliber of poster you were trying to attract with the programming change.

[TripletDaddy]

It is cute that you think that was my point. Shows how much you still view the world through a Utah hating lens. I have no illusions that the Utes have been as successful as TCU. TCU started out with more talent and play in a weaker conference. Utah has taken its lumps, but I am satisfied with the trajectory. I don't have any delusion that the Utes will be supplanting USC, UCLA as top dog in the P-12 South, but will be pushing them at every turn.

The point is that BYu fans in general have a warped sense of where they sit now and over the last 15 years. Very similar to the Nebraska fans posting in this thread. And it is funny to watch you all lecture PBW and Omaha about how they should have realistic expectations about their team and where they stand in the CFB world.

Not this year!

[Jeff Lebowski]

It is cute that you think that was my point. Shows how much you still view the world through a Utah hating lens. I have no illusions that the Utes have been as successful as TCU. TCU started out with more talent and play in a weaker conference. Utah has taken its lumps, but I am satisfied with the trajectory. I don't have any delusion that the Utes will be supplanting USC, UCLA as top dog in the P-12 South, but will be pushing them at every turn.

The point is that BYu fans in general have a warped sense of where they sit now and over the last 15 years. Very similar to the Nebraska fans posting in this thread. And it is funny to watch you all lecture PBW and Omaha about how they should have realistic expectations about their team and where they stand in the CFB world.

[Jarid in Cedar]

not that excited to have JiC back here, tbh.

This is really why you miss me

[Jarid in Cedar]

I think I have a handle on what BYU is. I would be thrilled with a nice run once a decade or so. What is clear though, is that you don't have a grasp on what Utah's program is. It's cute that you would think that your impact on the PAC has been as significant as TCU's on the Big 12.

It is cute that you think that was my point. Shows how much you still view the world through a Utah hating lens. I have no illusions that the Utes have been as successful as TCU. TCU started out with more talent and play in a weaker conference. Utah has taken its lumps, but I am satisfied with the trajectory. I don't have any delusion that the Utes will be supplanting USC, UCLA as top dog in the P-12 South, but will be pushing them at every turn.

The point is that BYu fans in general have a warped sense of where they sit now and over the last 15 years. Very similar to the Nebraska fans posting in this thread. And it is funny to watch you all lecture PBW and Omaha about how they should have realistic expectations about their team and where they stand in the CFB world.

[Color Me Badd Fan]

Other than Alabama having 3 million more people than Nebraska and having a quarter of its population black (vs. under 5% in Nebraska) and bordering a number of states with a huge black population, Nebraska is exactly like Alabama.

[imanihonjin]

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I think I have a handle on what BYU is. I would be thrilled with a nice run once a decade or so. What is clear though, is that you don't have a grasp on what Utah's program is. It's cute that you would think that your impact on the PAC has been as significant as TCU's on the Big 12.

[imanihonjin]

Depends on your definition of "regularly". By regularly, I mean still being in the divisional race in November. I don't think that being a nearly annual occurrence is out of the reach of Nebraska.

Think Iowa. Embrace it.