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  • cougjunkie
    *Banned*
    • Nov 2008
    • 23223

    #1021
    Originally posted by Omaha 680 View Post
    Also, I don't think it works this way. I thought beyond the playoff and rose bowl selection, record doesn't enter into it for bowl selection. There is a selection order, but whichever bowl is in line next selects whoever they want that is bowl elligible and sometimes that is a team that finished lower in the conference if they will sell more tickets. Correct me if I'm wrong, PAC 12 people.
    This is true. However they try to keep as close as possible. For a 3rd/4th place Utah team to fall to 6th would take some serious magic and backdoor favors by the Vegas Bowl. The LV bowl would give anything for that matchup. But I am not sure Utah falls that far.
    *Banned*

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    • TripletDaddy
      sweet triple
      • Nov 2008
      • 58186

      #1022
      Originally posted by Omaha 680 View Post
      Also, I don't think it works this way. I thought beyond the playoff and rose bowl selection, record doesn't enter into it for bowl selection. There is a selection order, but whichever bowl is in line next selects whoever they want that is bowl elligible and sometimes that is a team that finished lower in the conference if they will sell more tickets. Correct me if I'm wrong, PAC 12 people.
      lol how would utah fans know much about being selected for bowls in the last three or four years?
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      • Maximus
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 6008

        #1023
        Originally posted by Omaha 680 View Post
        Disaster?

        Sure Utah would be favored but I would love ending the season playing against them.
        Disaster as in I have no faith we could beat them

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        • Maximus
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 6008

          #1024
          Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
          This is true. However they try to keep as close as possible. For a 3rd/4th place Utah team to fall to 6th would take some serious magic and backdoor favors by the Vegas Bowl. The LV bowl would give anything for that matchup. But I am not sure Utah falls that far.
          If UCLA beats Utah Stanford/Oregon/USC/WSU would all have around the same record at least in conference. UCLA might be more attractive than Utah. Same with Oregon, stanford/usc in title game, wsu might just be 6th though.

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          • Paperback Writer
            Signature won a Pulitzer
            • Nov 2010
            • 5211

            #1025
            Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
            This is true. However they try to keep as close as possible. For a 3rd/4th place Utah team to fall to 6th would take some serious magic and backdoor favors by the Vegas Bowl. The LV bowl would give anything for that matchup. But I am not sure Utah falls that far.
            I think the conference has some say on bowl selections but that might vary by conference. They do try to keep as close as possible, as you mention. One exception I remember was Nebraska's last season/game in the Big 12. The Huskers were slated to play Iowa in a bowl game but the Big 12 wouldn't allow it. The last thing the Big 12 wanted was for Nebraska to have a bowl game against their new "rival" in the Big Ten. So they forced Nebraska to play Washington, a team Nebraska had already played earlier in the season.

            Maybe the draw of a Utah-BYU matchup might prevail with the PAC-12. It would also depend on the draw of other potential match-ups involving the PAC-12. Utah could get bumped if other PAC-12 teams have a reputation of traveling better.
            “Not the victory but the action. Not the goal but the game. In the deed the glory.”
            "All things are measured against Nebraska." falafel

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            • The_Douger
              Athletic Supporter
              • Jun 2012
              • 5413

              #1026
              Originally posted by Omaha 680 View Post
              Also, I don't think it works this way. I thought beyond the playoff and rose bowl selection, record doesn't enter into it for bowl selection. There is a selection order, but whichever bowl is in line next selects whoever they want that is bowl elligible and sometimes that is a team that finished lower in the conference if they will sell more tickets. Correct me if I'm wrong, PAC 12 people.
              Utah should have played in the bowl Stanford played in last year, but that bowl was close to Stanford and I think the bowl chair was alumni, so that's who they chose despite the better record.

              So, you're right. The bowls can basically choose who they want and whoever is left over can be selected afterwards. So, sure. Utah in the Vegas.
              Will donate kidney for B12 membership.

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              • kccougar
                9262
                • Nov 2008
                • 7020

                #1027
                "It's devastating, because we lost to a team that's not even in the Pac-12. To lose to Utah State is horrible." - John White IV

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                • falafel
                  loves to talk on things
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 37882

                  #1028
                  Period at the end but first word isn't capitalized. DH's own private hell.
                  Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

                  Dig your own grave, and save!

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                  GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                  • HuskyFreeNorthwest
                    Time to camp
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 26082

                    #1029
                    Originally posted by Omaha 680 View Post
                    Also, I don't think it works this way. I thought beyond the playoff and rose bowl selection, record doesn't enter into it for bowl selection. There is a selection order, but whichever bowl is in line next selects whoever they want that is bowl elligible and sometimes that is a team that finished lower in the conference if they will sell more tickets. Correct me if I'm wrong, PAC 12 people.
                    No P12 bowls are not bowl selection based as in other conference, they are tied to order of finish. Winner of conf champ game to Rose, loser to Alamo unless NY6 or playoff selections. This is something that the conference is planning on changing at the next round of bowl contracts as the other conferences are all bowl selection based. FWIW I was told this today by a member of the football staff at Oregon.
                    Get confident, stupid
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                    • TripletDaddy
                      sweet triple
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 58186

                      #1030
                      i dont get that dumpsman center picture
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                      • creekster
                        It is NOT a monkey!
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 22661

                        #1031
                        Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                        i dont get that dumpsman center picture
                        Really? I thought you had been there before.
                        PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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                        • kccougar
                          9262
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 7020

                          #1032
                          Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                          i dont get that dumpsman center picture
                          Apparently it is a really hot place to play.
                          "It's devastating, because we lost to a team that's not even in the Pac-12. To lose to Utah State is horrible." - John White IV

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                          • Jeff Lebowski
                            Corporate lackey for Jesus
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 69488

                            #1033
                            "Reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated" - The Rivalry Thread

                            Compared to Utah, BYU is slightly cheaper has a much higher graduation rate and a much higher starting salary. Don't damage your future by attending Utah! (or USU).

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                            • myboynoah
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 21719

                              #1034
                              Originally posted by kccougar View Post
                              Apparently it is a really hot place to play.
                              Can they not generate at least one original thought?

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                              • Applejack
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2012
                                • 3812

                                #1035
                                Utah Women's X-Country qualifies for NCAA championship! :clap:

                                (This is a sport people care about, right?)

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