Live Streaming of the Heaps press conference:

[DU Ute]

Arm strength is overated in the college game, but I disagree with you anyway...as he's already got a stronger arm than Max Hall does.

He's a little thin, but he's 6'2. He's not exactly a midget. I'm 6'2 and he walked right by me and seems at least my height if not an inch taller.

Did you put forth your hand and touch the hem of his garment?

[Goatnapper'96]

Arm strength is overated in the college game, but I disagree with you anyway...as he's already got a stronger arm than Max Hall does.

He's a little thin, but he's 6'2. He's not exactly a midget. I'm 6'2 and he walked right by me and seems at least my height if not an inch taller.

I don't think arm strength is overated in the college game as much as it is not as neccesary to be successful. However, with a stronger arm comes opportunities not afforded offenses whose qbs lack sufficient arm strength. There are things BYU cannot do with Hall that they could do with Beck because of Beck's superior armstrength. Lack of armstrength makes teams easier to defend and I think Hall's lack of armstrength might be why he plays poorly against good defenses with speed. He gets used to making throws against Wyoming that he can't make against TCU and Utah and then when he plays against teams with speed on defense he makes those ill advised throws more frequently than he should and it appears he might be suffering from some short term color blindness.

[cougjunkie]

I don't think arm strength is overated in the college game as much as it is not as neccesary to be successful. However, with a stronger arm comes opportunities not afforded offenses whose qbs lack sufficient arm strength. There are things BYU cannot do with Hall that they could do with Beck because of Beck's superior armstrength. Lack of armstrength makes teams easier to defend and I think Hall's lack of armstrength might be why he plays poorly against good defenses with speed. He gets used to making throws against Wyoming that he can't make against TCU and Utah and then when he plays against teams with speed on defense he makes those ill advised throws more frequently than he should and it appears he might be suffering from some short term color blindness.

You mean like the deepouts that John Beck threw so well, and the same deep outs that every time Max Hall throws I expect a pick 6 the other way.

[Goatnapper'96]

Did you put forth your hand and touch the hem of his garment?

Rocky ain't sick so no need. You think our people are protecting missionaries this week, you got no idea of the health tests folks had to pass to enter the same establishment as the future 3 horseman of the a-pock-oh-ellipse!

[RockyBalboa]

I don't think arm strength is overated in the college game as much as it is not as neccesary to be successful. However, with a stronger arm comes opportunities not afforded offenses whose qbs lack sufficient arm strength. There are things BYU cannot do with Hall that they could do with Beck because of Beck's superior armstrength. Lack of armstrength makes teams easier to defend and I think Hall's lack of armstrength might be why he plays poorly against good defenses with speed. He gets used to making throws against Wyoming that he can't make against TCU and Utah and then when he plays against teams with speed on defense he makes those ill advised throws more frequently than he should and it appears he might be suffering from some short term color blindness.

I'll take a kid with an average arm, but that has superior pocket presence and great skills to read a defense and make the correct calls over a kid with a rocket arm but lacking the intellectual fundamentals required to be successful at the position.

In the college game,,,I'll take that any day over a QB with a rocket arm. Ideally you'd like to find both, but in college it's all about being accurate and making the right reads and getting the ball off on time, not whether you can chuck the ball a million yards.

Fortunately Jake has an above average arm.

[RockyBalboa]

You mean like the deepouts that John Beck threw so well, and the same deep outs that every time Max Hall throws I expect a pick 6 the other way.

And in a weird way.....Beck had more pick sixes than Hall has to this point.

Granted most all of Becks came his Sophomore season when he was thrown to the fire and had no idea what was going on.

[Goatnapper'96]

You mean like the deepouts that John Beck threw so well, and the same deep outs that every time Max Hall throws I expect a pick 6 the other way.

That would be a fundamental play. When a qb has good arm strength the out is almost impossible to cover. When a qb with a strong arm is behind an OL that can hold the block long enough for the wr to go 13-16 yards downfield before breaking out safeties are screwed and the rush game and tight ends get open all over the field.

[JohnnyLingo]

I don't think arm strength is overated in the college game as much as it is not as neccesary to be successful. However, with a stronger arm comes opportunities not afforded offenses whose qbs lack sufficient arm strength. There are things BYU cannot do with Hall that they could do with Beck because of Beck's superior armstrength. Lack of armstrength makes teams easier to defend and I think Hall's lack of armstrength might be why he plays poorly against good defenses with speed. He gets used to making throws against Wyoming that he can't make against TCU and Utah and then when he plays against teams with speed on defense he makes those ill advised throws more frequently than he should and it appears he might be suffering from some short term color blindness.

Spot on. Defenses don't have to worry about the deep ball hardly at all with Max, which means they have less ground to cover vs. the pass.

[RockyBalboa]

Spot on. Defenses don't have to worry about the deep ball hardly at all with Max, which means they have less ground to cover vs. the pass.

Aside from all the deep plays he had with Austin last year this is so spot on.

[smokymountainrain]

It's funny to hear all the Hall/Beck conversation after Hall finished the season poorly last year.

How quickly we forget that Hall has had more success than Beck, both in terms of wins and losses and in terms of stats than Beck had at the same point in each of their careers.

[jay santos]

I'll take a kid with an average arm, but that has superior pocket presence and great skills to read a defense and make the correct calls over a kid with a rocket arm but lacking the intellectual fundamentals required to be successful at the position.

In the college game,,,I'll take that any day over a QB with a rocket arm. Ideally you'd like to find both, but in college it's all about being accurate and making the right reads and getting the ball off on time, not whether you can chuck the ball a million yards.

Fortunately Jake has an above average arm.

I will too.

My comment was just that I was surprised he was grading out as the #1 QB in high school by some sources. I haven't followed things lately as much as I used to, and based on the high ranking I was expecting a 6'3/6'4 kid with a stronger arm.

Also Rocky, I've seen you in person and I'd peg you as about 6'0" no more than 6' 1/2".

[RockyBalboa]

Also Rocky, I've seen you in person

Liar.

[Hot Lunch]

You mean like the deepouts that John Beck threw so well, and the same deep outs that every time Max Hall throws I expect a pick 6 the other way.

Beck threw that route very well. Every time I see Hall go to throw it I put my head down and just hope it doesn't get picked.

Not trying to bag on Hall but his inability to throw that route will prevent him from playing in the NFL. That is one of the routes that NFL scouts will ask qb's to throw over and over again. It is by far the best judge of arm strength.

[byu71]

BYU71's head must have exploded due to all that religious talk mixed with football.

Bronco's strategy is looking fairly good right now.

I missed the conference, however it is pretty neat they had one. I have read numerous posts about the three and I am impressed. All three seem committed to football excellence at BYU. I have read posts about arm strength, size, speeed, etc.

Unfortunately Lingo, I would also like to hear about the religious stuff. Maybe it is an oversight, but none of the posts I have read have talked about their religious callings or credentials.

Perhaps you could fill me in. What for instance do you think they will bring that will uprade the firesides. Any other neat info. on the religion aspect would be appreciated. I can't think of anyone better to fill me in on what a big get this was from the religion aspect.

[myboynoah]

My only question is why, after the news conference, we didn't have a parade?