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  • #31
    if football players were female, there would be no case to demand compensation.
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    • #32
      Why is this only for athletes? Shouldn't any student on scholarship qualify? Especially those doing research for the university.
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      • #33
        Originally posted by CJF View Post
        Why is this only for athletes? Shouldn't any student on scholarship qualify? Especially those doing research for the university.
        Just as soon as the school starts selling merchandise that bears that research assistant's name or likeness, selling tickets to watch that student conduct research, or signing TV contracts to broadcast that research nationwide every Saturday in the fall.
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        • #34
          Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
          if football players were female, there would be no case to demand compensation.
          If this thing actually moves forward, it will be interesting to see what role/impact Title IX plays in all of this.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
            Just as soon as the school starts selling merchandise that bears that research assistant's name or likeness, selling tickets to watch that student conduct research, or signing TV contracts to broadcast that research nationwide every Saturday in the fall.
            Those are some weird distinctions. It is all about money and how a person brings in money is not as relevant to the issue as whether someone is bringing in money for the university or not. Why is it different to sell merchandise bearing someone's likeness than it is to patent and sell some medical discovery that a student made while researching at a particular school?

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            • #36
              Originally posted by imanihonjin View Post
              Those are some weird distinctions. It is all about money and how a person brings in money is not as relevant to the issue as whether someone is bringing in money for the university or not. Why is it different to sell merchandise bearing someone's likeness than it is to patent and sell some medical discovery that a student made while researching at a particular school?
              why does baseball get an anti-trust exemption?

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              • #37
                Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                why does baseball get an anti-trust exemption?

                Life isnt fair.
                I see...you weren't actually trying to make a logical argument. I should have known.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                  Just as soon as the school starts selling merchandise that bears that research assistant's name or likeness, selling tickets to watch that student conduct research, or signing TV contracts to broadcast that research nationwide every Saturday in the fall.
                  Does text books count as merchandise??

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by dabrockster View Post
                    Does text books count as merchandise??
                    no. textbooks earn royalties which are paid out to the publisher, who then, in turn, pays the authors.
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                      no. textbooks earn royalties which are paid out to the publisher, who then, in turn, pays the authors.
                      Is that like a football player taking a job and never working, but still getting paid?

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by dabrockster View Post
                        Is that like a football player taking a job and never working, but still getting paid?
                        no. royalties are a financial right reserved by the owner or creator of the intellectual property in question.
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                        • #42
                          Shabazz Napier has hungry nights and sometimes goes to bed starving.

                          http://ctmirror.org/uconns-napier-on...es-unionizing/

                          I am reminded of Louis CK's recent monologue on SNL.
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Surfah View Post
                            Shabazz Napier has hungry nights and sometimes goes to bed starving.

                            http://ctmirror.org/uconns-napier-on...es-unionizing/

                            I am reminded of Louis CK's recent monologue on SNL.
                            That's funny. A close friend who played for BYU told me that he has never eaten as good as he did when he was getting his living stipend AND being fed frequent team meals as a member of the BYU basketball team. He may or may not have bought a 42" Plasma TV with his leftover stipend money one year (and this is back when a 42" Plasma ran 3 grand plus).
                            Prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them, along with this slice of humble pie that comes direct from the oven of shame set at gas mark “egg on your face”! -- Moss

                            There's three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who's got the same first name as a city; and never go near a lady's got a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, everything else is cream cheese. --Coach Finstock

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                            • #44
                              Here's an interesting article about money in college sports from more of a macro view.

                              One of the main points is that most of the money is earned in FB and BB with poorer student athletes, and that the money subsidizes the other sports where the athletes come from wealthier backgrounds.

                              Another point is that the monetary benefit of the scholarships is much lower than what collective bargaining would yield.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Bo Diddley View Post
                                Here's an interesting article about money in college sports from more of a macro view.

                                One of the main points is that most of the money is earned in FB and BB with poorer student athletes, and that the money subsidizes the other sports where the athletes come from wealthier backgrounds.

                                Another point is that the monetary benefit of the scholarships is much lower than what collective bargaining would yield.
                                That's an interesting point that I'd never really thought about before. Of course, there are sure to be lots of exceptions to that generalization - football and basketball players from rich families while many participants in other sports (track, soccer, etc.) come from poverty.
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