Who will be suckier through the 20teens?

[Art Vandelay]

I think there is a very good chance, even a high probability (I'm sure pelagenius will prove why I'm wrong, but still), both BYU and Utah will be be primarily also-rans, for most of the decade. Though one, or both schools, will be highly ranked early in a few seasons, once both get into the meat of their schedule, I predict they will struggle most years. Though it's not really going out on a limb, I'm will to bet neither team ends the season in the top 10, during twentyeens.

I can easily see (the state of) Utah becoming like Arizona- both schools consistently thinking this is the year they do something special only to play the top tier teams, and tumble back to reality. Or worse, like Washington- One school thinking "this is the year" we are back in the top 5 and the other thinking this is the year we are competitive again (who is Udub and who is Wazzu, is debatable).

As someone who has been completely average, at everything, his whole life, I can tell you mediocrity is much easier to deal with, when you accept it. We (BYU and Utah) are, who we are. And the reality is neither team is nowhere close, and likely won't be for a long time, an elite program.

[DU Ute]

I can deal with any level of performance from the Utes as long as BYU is doing worse. That's just the kind of person I am.

[Art Vandelay]

I can deal with any level of performance from the Utes as long as BYU is doing worse. That's just the kind of person I am.

Really? You don't seem to be the kind of guy who would pay much attention to BYU, one way or another. Color me surprised.

[byu71]

I can only go on what I see as of right now. I can't anticipate changes that could be made.

Based on that, neither will become a consistantly top 15 program. The Utes competition wise just have too much to overcome.

BYU will have the overall better W/L record each year, but after the 10 year period the Utes will be recognized as a BCS team in the same breath as say, Arizona, Washington, Cal and UCLA. The Utes will continue to dominate when they play on the field.

After 10 years people will still be amazed that with BYU rarely beating top teams and with a so so schedule, they still manage to average 50,000 fans a game.

[Top Ute]

I think there is a very good chance, even a high probability (I'm sure pelagenius will prove why I'm wrong, but still), both BYU and Utah will be be primarily also-rans, for most of the decade. Though one, or both schools, will be highly ranked early in a few seasons, once both get into the meat of their schedule, I predict they will struggle most years. Though it's not really going out on a limb, I'm will to bet neither team ends the season in the top 10, during twentyeens.

I can easily see (the state of) Utah becoming like Arizona- both schools consistently thinking this is the year they do something special only to play the top tier teams, and tumble back to reality. Or worse, like Washington- One school thinking "this is the year" we are back in the top 5 and the other thinking this is the year we are competitive again (who is Udub and who is Wazzu, is debatable).

As someone who has been completely average, at everything, his whole life, I can tell you mediocrity is much easier to deal with, when you accept it. We (BYU and Utah) are, who we are. And the reality is neither team is nowhere close, and likely won't be for a long time, an elite program.

I would take Arizona State's track record in the Pac-10 in a heartbeat for Utah. A Rose Bowl appearance in the first decade, a minute away from a national title in the second (I trust the final minute would go better under Kyle than it did for Bruce Snyder against Ohio State) and a shared title in the third. Five more seasons ended with 9 or more wins.

If I had to endure nearly a decade of never winning more than 7 games (all of which happened in 11-game seasons) as ASU did between Rose Bowl trips, I'd still sign up, since in today's bowl climate, ASU still would've gone to bowl games in seven of those nine years.

[MartyFunkhouser]

I would take Arizona State's track record in the Pac-10 in a heartbeat for Utah. A Rose Bowl appearance in the first decade, a minute away from a national title in the second (I trust the final minute would go better under Kyle than it did for Bruce Snyder against Ohio State) and a shared title in the third. Five more seasons ended with 9 or more wins.

If I had to endure nearly a decade of never winning more than 7 games (all of which happened in 11-game seasons) as ASU did between Rose Bowl trips, I'd still sign up, since in today's bowl climate, ASU still would've gone to bowl games in seven of those nine years.

Exactly, I would be thrilled with that type of production from the Utes.

The plain fact is that we are never going to be Oregon or USC in the Pac-12. We are never going to be the dominant team. However, if Utah can settle in and win a Pac-12 South title every 5 years or so and have a great season every 10 years or so, I'll be thrilled.

[myboynoah]

LOL, such an easy vote - The UofUtah.

[UtahDan]

[HuskyFreeNorthwest]

I wanted to vote for Riley Nelson, where's that option.

[SeattleUte]

Vandelay, this thread is worthy of calicoug. You're better than that. Granted, Utah needs to progress to Pac 12 contension. But we aren't interested in participating in BYU fans' nihilism.

[Art Vandelay]

I wanted to vote for Riley Nelson, where's that option.

I've been meaning to ask you for awhile. Which university and/or fanbase, do you despise the most? Utah, OSU, UW, USC, other???

[Art Vandelay]

There needs to be an edit button on polls. I think the equally sucky option should be getting a lot more votes.

[byu71]

There needs to be an edit button on polls. I think the equally sucky option should be getting a lot more votes.

If I think BYU won't have a program or will be in a Big Sky type league, how am I supposed to vote.