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That asshole deserves to be beaten to death and I'd like to throw the final punches.Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill
"I only know what I hear on the news." - Dear Leader
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Let me ask you a question:Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View PostNeither side is blameless.
In a stadium with 46K plus fans...is it fair to say or guess that there were thousands of "Fans" drunk off their ass in the stadium that night?
Furthermore would you agree that an "Fan" drunk combined with the exuberance of victory and the anger of hatred would go further than a person would under normal circumstances?
When you combine all those elements together, I think it's a very obvious and easy conclusion to say that not just some, but a lot of the U fanbase was majorly out of line that evening.Last edited by RockyBalboa; 11-25-2008, 06:52 PM.
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Yes, there were far too many drunk assholes in attendance and those assholes went too far.Originally posted by RockyBalboa View PostLet me ask you a question:
In a stadium with 46K plus fans...is it fair to say or guess that there were thousands of "Fans" drunk off their ass in the stadium that night?
Furthermore would agree that an "Fan" drunk combined with the exuberance of victory and the anger of hatred would go further than a person would under normal circumstances?
But did Leukenga do the right thing by retaliating? Or could he have been the bigger person and walked away?"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill
"I only know what I hear on the news." - Dear Leader
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I hope Paul Rolly does get a chance to make him famous. I'd like to excommunicate him from the Ute fan nation.Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View PostThat asshole deserves to be beaten to death and I'd like to throw the final punches.“There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
― W.H. Auden
"God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
-- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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One football player vs. thousands of drunk morons....that's a fair fight. When someone's safety is being threatened they will sometimes defend themselves.Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View PostYes, there were far too many drunk assholes in attendance and those assholes went too far.
But did Leukenga do the right thing by retaliating? Or could he have been the bigger person and walked away?
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I also find it ironic that the morons on Ufans going off about BYU players looking for a fight....aren't calling out their own fanbase for the countless numbers of threats of physical violence and acts of drunken lunacy and contributing to creating an unsafe environment.
That my friends...is irony.
It tells you once again that the level of anger and hatred that one fanbase feels for the other simply does not compare no matter how much any Ute fan wants to try and spin it.
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Was Leukenga's safety ever really threatened?Originally posted by RockyBalboa View PostOne football player vs. thousands of drunk morons....that's a fair fight. When someone's safety is being threatened they will sometimes defend themselves.
I honestly don't know. But the video that SU posted showed another player grabbing hold of him and walking him away from the crowd.
You are correct about those on Utefans who are talking about it not calling out their own, but these are those that you yourself call yewt "fans", so your point about hatred shown by one fan base more than the other really doesn't apply here, as you know they are not true Ute fans. They are just assholes who use the rivalry to be assholes."Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill
"I only know what I hear on the news." - Dear Leader
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Good points.Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View PostWas Leukenga's safety ever really threatened?
I honestly don't know. But the video that SU posted showed another player grabbing hold of him and walking him away from the crowd.
You are correct about those on Utefans who are talking about it not calling out their own, but these are those that you yourself call yewt "fans", so your point about hatred shown by one fan base more than the other really doesn't apply here, as you know they are not true Ute fans. They are just assholes who use the rivalry to be assholes.
I do agree that Leukenga should've just kept on walking, but I will contend that when you're surrounded by tons of drunken idiots that you aren't exactly in a safe environment.
And I do want to make it clear that in no way am I lumping you, LA Ute, Drumnfeather, UtahDan, Ute4ever, and sevearl of the cool posters on Ufn in with the other guys. You guys have all been nothing but cool.
And SU is about as threatening as a U fan in ballerina trunks running full tilt with an appletini in each hand. Even his own fans would kick his ass for that alone.Last edited by RockyBalboa; 11-25-2008, 07:24 PM.
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It's tough to keep composure when surrounded by idiots, especially if you're a player after a loss.Originally posted by RockyBalboa View PostGood points.
I do agree that Leukenga should've just kept on walking, but I will contend that when you're surrounded by tons of drunken idiots that you aren't exactly in a safe environment.
And I do want to make it clear that in no way am I lumping you, LA Ute, Drumnfeather, UtahDan, Ute4ever, and sevearl of the cool posters on Ufn in with the other guys. You guys have all been nothing but cool.
And I never felt like you were talking about me. Besides, I've seen you and you're about as intimidating as a teddy bear."Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill
"I only know what I hear on the news." - Dear Leader
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Teddy Ruxpin ain't got shit on me.Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View PostIt's tough to keep composure when surrounded by idiots, especially if you're a player after a loss.
And I never felt like you were talking about me. Besides, I've seen you and you're about as intimidating as a teddy bear.
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Teddy Ruxpin killed a guy who looked at him.Originally posted by RockyBalboa View PostTeddy Ruxpin ain't got shit on me.
True story."Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill
"I only know what I hear on the news." - Dear Leader
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I bet Ponyboy was his source.Originally posted by cougjunkie View PostWhen a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.
--Jonathan Swift
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