Heaps is a Quitter

[Jeff Lebowski]

I am just glad that we have had some of those same quitters on our teams like Kavienga, Fangupo, Max Hall, Riley Nelson, etc.

Those were the good quitters.

[Viking]

Those were the good quitters.

How many of those were starters, lost their positions, then quit?

[Scorcho]

Good one. And so fresh, too.

Trust me, this isn't great news for Utah Fans either. Now, Norm Chow is going to have to figure out a way to generate some offensive scoring during the rivalry game. It's not as if the ball is just going to be squirting out and just sitting in the end zone waiting for someone to pick it up any longer.

[falafel]

Trust me, this isn't great news for Utah Fans either. Now, Norm Chow is going to have to figure out a way to generate some offensive scoring during the rivalry game. It's not as if the ball is just going to be squirting out and just sitting in the end zone waiting for someone to pick it up any longer.

Getting better, but you've still got a ways to go.

[cougjunkie]

clearly you have never tried booking an Iggy's Sports Bar for a private event during the Holidays?

He could have called Jordan Loveridges publicist who did the same thing. Sorry Ute fans that joke has ran its course when one of your future players does the exact same thing.

[cougjunkie]

How many of those were starters, lost their positions, then quit?

All of them.

Riley Nelson was not going to start coming back off his mission so he quit.

Fangupo was hurt and lost his starting job to Tupou so he quit.

Max Hall was told he was going to be the backup to Rudy Carpenter a sophomore so he quit.

Uona Kaveinga was the backup behind Chris Gallippo so he quit.

[Green Monstah]

Best of luck to Jake. I honestly hope he lands at a program where he can beat out a guy with a noodle for an arm.

I would love to see him land at Utah. It will make victory all the more sweet.

[Green Monstah]

Oh.......never mind then.

Good luck, Jake. Bad career decision, but best of luck to you.

Let's think this through.

If Jake truly has NFL aspirations, is it a bad decision? He'll likely sit his Jr. year, which only gives him one season to impress NFL scouts. That's easy to do at USC, Oregon, etc., etc., but at a non-BCS school, I think starting multiple years is absolutely necessary to improve NFL stock. Yes, there are notable exceptions, but I'm sure that is what Heaps is thinking.

If Jake has abandoned the NFL dream, is it a bad career decision? He probably wants to play the game he loves as much as possible before he has to hang up the spikes for good. If he is looking at riding pine again next year, it makes sense to transfer. Yes, he could RS next year and start for two seasons after RN graduates, but I think he needs a fresh start. Cougar fans, for better or worse, turned on him fairly quickly, and I think a new uni would do him some good.

I wonder if there's a higher profile school where he would have a fairly certain chance of starting. It's seems unlikely, but I don't have time to follow other school's depth charts.

[Jacob]

Let's think this through.

If Jake truly has NFL aspirations, is it a bad decision? He's going to have to sit his Jr. year, which only gives him one season to impress NFL scouts. .

Your entire argument fails on the basis of your faulty assumption. Jake doesn't have to sit out his Jr year. Not at BYU, and not anywhere else. He's got 2 years left to play.

[Viking]

All of them.

Riley Nelson was not going to start coming back off his mission so he quit.

Fangupo was hurt and lost his starting job to Tupou so he quit.

Max Hall was told he was going to be the backup to Rudy Carpenter a sophomore so he quit.

Uona Kaveinga was the backup behind Chris Gallippo so he quit.

Uh, what?

Looks like only Fangupo was a starter, active, lost his role and left.

[Green Monstah]

Your entire argument fails on the basis of your faulty assumption. Jake doesn't have to sit out his Jr year. Not at BYU, and not anywhere else. He's got 2 years left to play.

It seems to me that if he felt he could beat Riley out next year, he wouldn't be transferring. Do you disagree? I edited to make clear that what I meant was that he'd be backing up Nelson next year.

Don't distract yourself, Jacob.

[dabrockster]

It seems to me that if he felt he could beat Riley out next year, he wouldn't be transferring. Do you disagree? I edited to make clear that what I meant was that he'd be backing up Nelson next year.

Don't distract yourself, Jacob.

Sp you're saying he gave the BYU Coaches an ultimatum that he must start next year or he will transfer? And the coaches said we want you to RS and start the next year, and he said Sorry. I'm outta here.. And he now has to sit a year anyway just "Somewhere else"..

What exactly are you trying to say???

If he really thinks he could beat Riley then his early season "Tryout" just proves that wrong. He made some boneheaded choices in those games and lost any level of cockiness and became fragile mentally.. So he lost the starting job..

[Green Monstah]

Sp you're saying he gave the BYU Coaches an ultimatum that he must start next year or he will transfer? And the coaches said we want you to RS and start the next year, and he said Sorry. I'm outta here.. And he now has to sit a year anyway just "Somewhere else"..

What exactly are you trying to say???

If he really thinks he could beat Riley then his early season "Tryout" just proves that wrong. He made some boneheaded choices in those games and lost any level of cockiness and became fragile mentally.. So he lost the starting job..

I'm not saying he gave anyone an ultimatum. I'm saying he clearly doesn't think he will start next year, and therefore is transferring. He doesn't have to sit elsewhere, right? He can burn his RS. My bad; I thought he could burn his RS year and play immediately, but that would require some sort of coaching change, sanction, etc.

Yeah, this doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Sort of a pussy move if you ask me.