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  • #31
    Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
    There is actually strong logic in that approach. Given that the offense is rarely on the field and spends most of its time on the sidelines, what better place for the offensive coordinator to hang out?
    I think the cleanest solution to all of this is for BYU to hire a QB coach that can do the rah-rah crap on the sideline and keep Jake on an edge while Doman mans the booth.
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    • #32
      Why can't he get a CCTV feed from the pressbox onto an ipad or something? Sort of a best of both worlds.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Surfah View Post
        I think the cleanest solution to all of this is for BYU to hire a QB coach that can do the rah-rah crap on the sideline and keep Jake on an edge while Doman mans the booth.
        We had a QB coach to do the rah-rah crap on the sideline, while the boring, personality-conflicting, yet mostly effective OC did his work up in the booth away from the players.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by TheBYUGuy View Post
          We had a QB coach to do the rah-rah crap on the sideline, while the boring, personality-conflicting, yet mostly effective OC did his work up in the booth away from the players.
          Wasn't Anae on the sidelines? I swear I remember seeing him there.
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          • #35
            Originally posted by All-American View Post
            Wasn't Anae on the sidelines? I swear I remember seeing him there.
            Yeah Anae spent most of his time at BYU on the sidelines. He spent a very small amount of time in the booth, but returned to the field a few games later.
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            • #36
              What do people think Bronco is doing wrong? From an outsider's perspective Saturday was about two things: (1) guys not being mentally tough and making big mistakes (2) guys getting beat in individual match-ups.

              It seems to me that it is hard to fault the coach for individual non-performance UNLESS there is a larger issue of lack or focus/mental toughness. What was a big surprised to see Saturday was that BYU took a big punch in the early third quarter and seemed to fold. BYU teams of old would never have quit down a mere three scores (seriously, that is not that much given the history).

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              • #37
                Originally posted by UtahDan View Post
                What do people think Bronco is doing wrong? From an outsider's perspective Saturday was about two things: (1) guys not being mentally tough and making big mistakes (2) guys getting beat in individual match-ups.

                It seems to me that it is hard to fault the coach for individual non-performance UNLESS there is a larger issue of lack or focus/mental toughness. What I was a big surprised to see Saturday was that BYU took a big punch in the early fourth quarter and seemed to fold. BYU teams of old would never have quit down a mere three scores (seriously, that is not that much given the history).
                If the offense ever comes around the team will be fine (I know that's a big if). I would have preferred to see the defense compete to the end. But I'm guessing watching your offense plunk the ball down inside the 15 for you to defend or get fumbles returned for touchdowns for most of the game will eventually break you. I personally thought it was amazing the defense played so well for over 3 quarters with the spots they were continually put in.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by UtahDan View Post
                  What do people think Bronco is doing wrong? From an outsider's perspective Saturday was about two things: (1) guys not being mentally tough and making big mistakes (2) guys getting beat in individual match-ups.

                  It seems to me that it is hard to fault the coach for individual non-performance UNLESS there is a larger issue of lack or focus/mental toughness. What I was a big surprised to see Saturday was that BYU took a big punch in the early fourth quarter and seemed to fold. BYU teams of old would never have quit down a mere three scores (seriously, that is not that much given the history).
                  Im not a fan of the firesides, truthfully. By BYU's own admission, the night before the game they have the players do something that shifts their focus from football to something else. Granted, BYU feels that this "something else" is more important than football, but the principle is still the same. I can't think of other football programs that do this. The ones I have seen do stuff that amps players up, War Time, stuff like that.

                  I question the mental prep of BYU in big games, but not just under Bronco. Historically, BYUs bowl game record is unimpressive.

                  Also, not sure it is entirely Bronco's "fault" that the talent isnt there in some of our skill positions. I am sure he tried to recruit a better RB every year. Who knows.

                  My main question and I have mentioned it before. Why on Earth would Bronco admit to the media that he isn't an offensive minded coach? In doing so he is also admitting that he might not really know HOW to fix the offense. Im not sure how you can interpret it any other way.
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                    My main question and I have mentioned it before. Why on Earth would Bronco admit to the media that he isn't an offensive minded coach? In doing so he is also admitting that he might not really know HOW to fix the offense. Im not sure how you can interpret it any other way.
                    To add to the confusion Bronco isn't as hands off with the offense as I thought. This quote is from his press conference before the Ole' Miss game.

                    "I’ve had quite a bit of input from just a philosophical or overall perspective [on how Nelson should be used]," Mendenhall said. "That’s where I do most of my thinking; is big picture or broad spectrum. After I share that with my coaches I expect them to get to the specifics of this type of play, in this situation, etc. So all I have done is express my expectations to not only our offensive staff but also our special teams staff of how he might be used. Then their job is to design the schemes and strategies to meet the bigger picture expectation I have shared with them."

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                      My main question and I have mentioned it before. Why on Earth would Bronco admit to the media that he isn't an offensive minded coach? In doing so he is also admitting that he might not really know HOW to fix the offense. Im not sure how you can interpret it any other way.
                      He is preparing the way to throw Doman under the bus at the end of the year. Firing a coordinator always buys a HC time and makes it seem like he is shaking things up, even if he has no intention of changing. Self-preservation.
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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
                        He is preparing the way to throw Doman under the bus at the end of the year. Firing a coordinator always buys a HC time and makes it seem like he is shaking things up, even if he has no intention of changing. Self-preservation.
                        This is actually exactly what my FIL said to me on Saturday. he said that Bronco is washing his hands of things.

                        After watching Anae and Hill, I'm not so disinclined to believe anymore.

                        To Bronco's credit, he did assume ALL blame in the post-game show.
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                          Im not a fan of the firesides, truthfully. By BYU's own admission, the night before the game they have the players do something that shifts their focus from football to something else. Granted, BYU feels that this "something else" is more important than football, but the principle is still the same.
                          Winning brings people to the firesides. They better get this turned around or the fireside circuit will take a hit...
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Surfah View Post
                            It's over already.

                            He said film confirmed the defense played tough to the end.
                            You have got to be shitting me.. EVERYONE saw this team quit..

                            Is this his way of calling out the offense and indirectly saying they quit?? I am curious how this came up or what question was asked when he gave this response..

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by UtahDan View Post
                              What do people think Bronco is doing wrong? From an outsider's perspective Saturday was about two things: (1) guys not being mentally tough and making big mistakes (2) guys getting beat in individual match-ups.

                              It seems to me that it is hard to fault the coach for individual non-performance UNLESS there is a larger issue of lack or focus/mental toughness. What was a big surprised to see Saturday was that BYU took a big punch in the early third quarter and seemed to fold. BYU teams of old would never have quit down a mere three scores (seriously, that is not that much given the history).
                              But Bronco said they were so well prepared in fall camp that he gave them an additional day off. I'm so confused Bronco. Please Elder Mendenhall, lie to me...

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                              • #45
                                So apparently in the past 7 seasons, Bronco has started 1-2 five times. whoops.

                                Anyone care to extrapolate?
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