Utes vs. Huskies official thread

[BoylenOver]

re-watching the game:

-for a guy that received so much hype as a JUCO guy prior to 2010, John Cullen makes a ton of mental mistakes.

-I alternate between picking Derrick Shelby and Brian Blechen as Utah's best defender. Both are having great seasons.

-I'm down on Matt Martinez, but he was flying to the ball on UW's first offensive series.
-It's still surprising to see the TE's used so much in the Chow offense, yet Kendrick Moeai is nowhere to be found. I mean, the dude can't run block worth a crap, but he inspired so much excitement after the '09 Poinsettia Bowl.

-Dres Anderson made a great catch on the TD.

-Wynn looked really sharp. I think Chow fell in love with the deep ball early, though. It worked on the 2nd offensive drive, but lost effectiveness after that.

-Utah has to convert on 3rd and 2 late in the first quarter. Yes, Cullen jumping on 4th and 1 was also a huge gaffe, but we shouldn't have been in that situation. In addition, Utah would really benefit from the quick-snap QB sneak you see so much in football.

-It's not sustainable, but Utah is very good in 3rd and long. I guess that's the benefit of constantly being in 3rd and long.

-Utah did some nice things on the ground at the beginning of the 2nd quarter. Stretch plays, draw counter (one of my favorite plays). We were beating the Huskies on the edges.

-On the Wynn INT in the red zone, the UW defensive end got a good push against the guard, and it prevented Wynn from stepping into the throw. Instead of hitting DVC in stride in the zone void, the defender caught it below his waist.

-Loved seeing Shelby abuse two linemen midway through the 2nd quarter. Utah sent 3 rushers and got an emphatic sack.

-Most of us Ute fans said UW didn't make any mistakes, but the drive that ended with the Anderson fumble was aided by 30 yards in Husky penalties (kick-catch interference and pass interference). Gotta protect the football.

-Fakahafua made a freshman mistake on the late hit against Price. The hit itself wasn't dirty, but it was definitely late. You can't give the official a reason to throw the flag.

-You can talk about the 2 personal fouls before the half all you want, we had them 3rd and 7 at the 36 and couldn't get a stop.

-The 2nd play of the 3rd quarter, Martinez mis-identified the draw, got blocked out of the play, and it turned into a 50-yard run.

-That same drive, Chaz Walker is 3 yards away from the TE in pass coverage (and it was definitely man). Not surprisingly, Price found him easily and UW converted for first.

-Washington did a great job staying "on schedule" in the 3rd quarter. It's easy to move the ball and pick up points when you're in good situations on 2nd and 3rd down.

-On the Hays INT, it wasn't a good throw, but Anderson has to go into DB mode and prevent the turnover. Nice play by the defender, though.

-As the quarter wears on, the linebackers get worse and worse. I thought they played ok in the first half, but whether they're wearing down or getting exposed, I'm not sure.

-UW's TD to make it 24-7, the Huskies are in max protect. It's a two-man route against Utah running zone (looked like Cover 3), but Price makes a perfect throw to hit the WR in stride, and the safety didn't get there in time.

-3rd and 5 late in the 3rd, Hays hits Dunn in stride but he's a yard short. Again, you have to convert on that. Way too many situations where Utah needed a yard and didn't get it.

-Star had an anonymous game. That doesn't necessarily mean he had an awful performance, but I'm used to seeing him around the ball more.

-Midway through the 4th, the game's over, but following the huge play to DVC, Hays didn't protect the ball. Just take the sack in that situation.

-Hays made some good throws and good decisions on the last drive, though. And Washington was playing a "normal" defense.

The offensive line is bad in run blocking, and the linebackers went from playing ok to playing really bad against the run, but I feel a little better about the team going forward than I did last night.

[Jarid in Cedar]

Hal just said we should be nice and your post isn't very nice.

Neither was yours.

[SeattleUte]

Not to interrupt the self-congratulations, but you are hardly the first to observe that the outcome of the BYU-Utah game was a fluke.

The very person you married was largely by accident, young man.

[SeattleUte]

We are so lucky to have you here on CUF.

lol

[BoylenOver]

Here is the terrible truth nobody but me will utter, the truth that is so awful no one but me can confront.

We are so lucky to have you here on CUF.

[LA Ute]

Hal just said we should be nice and your post isn't very nice.

No, it wasn't. That doesn't change the fact that yours was butt-ugly (but endearing, in its own way).

[UtahDan]

Not to interrupt the self-congratulations, but you are hardly the first to observe that the outcome of the BYU-Utah game was a fluke.

You mean the score.

[All-American]

Here is the terrible truth nobody but me will utter, the truth that is so awful no one but me can confront. The utter randomness, the arbitrariness of some of these games is a horror to contemplate.

If these two teams played again, who the hell knows would win. Same with Utah and BYU. Those three teams are so evenly matched one could beat the other on any given day, but we see the devastation instantaneous lapses can cause.



This truth is terrible because we Ute fans can't comfort ourselves that our team really is 44 points better than BYU, and it's awful because we know what might have been--that we might have beaten the Huskies 31-14.

Maybe the worst part is you can't coach away lapses like Wynn's horrendous interception in the second quarter, a bullet straight into the hands of the defender while Chistopher was wide open behind him in the End Zone. You can't coach away Lacy's killer fumble on the opening kick off; you tell him to keep fighting till he's down, to keep fighting for that seam and maybe he'll break loose for a long return. But the risk is that someone will strip the ball amid these heriocs and disaster will ensue; and you can't coach that from happening. Shit happens.

It's awful to contemplate that so much of life is so random, so arbitrary. But it is. It just is.

Not to interrupt the self-congratulations, but you are hardly the first to observe that the outcome of the BYU-Utah game was a fluke.

[smokymountainrain]

Good post.



Your post is butt-ugly and doesn't even have a sweet spirit.

Hal just said we should be nice and your post isn't very nice.

[LA Ute]

Here is the terrible truth nobody but me will utter, the truth that is so awful no one but me can confront. The utter randomness, the arbitrariness of some of these games is a horror to contemplate.

If these two teams played again, who the hell knows would win. Same with Utah and BYU. Those three teams are so evenly matched one could beat the other on any given day, but we see the devastation instantaneous lapses can cause.



This truth is terrible because we Ute fans can't comfort ourselves that our team really is 44 points better than BYU, and it's awful because we know what might have been--that we might have beaten the Huskies 31-14.

Maybe the worst part is you can't coach away lapses like Wynn's horrendous interception in the second quarter, a bullet straight into the hands of the defender while Chistopher was wide open behind him in the End Zone. You can't coach away Lacy's killer fumble on the opening kick off; you tell him to keep fighting till he's down, to keep fighting for that seam and maybe he'll break loose for a long return. But the risk is that someone will strip the ball amid these heriocs and disaster will ensue; and you can't coach that from happening. Shit happens.

It's awful to contemplate that so much of life is so random, so arbitrary. But it is. It just is.

Good post.

This post is cute. The PAC is garbage and your division is the worst of the two.

Your post is butt-ugly and doesn't even have a sweet spirit.

[SeattleUte]

Here is the terrible truth nobody but me will utter, the truth that is so awful no one but me can confront. The utter randomness, the arbitrariness of some of these games is a horror to contemplate.

If these two teams played again, who the hell knows would win. Same with Utah and BYU. Those three teams are so evenly matched one could beat the other on any given day, but we see the devastation instantaneous lapses can cause.

For want of a nail the shoe was lost.
For want of a shoe the horse was lost.
For want of a horse the rider was lost.
For want of a rider the battle was lost.
For want of a battle the kingdom was lost.
And all for the want of a horseshoe nail.

This truth is terrible because we Ute fans can't comfort ourselves that our team really is 44 points better than BYU, and it's awful because we know what might have been--that we might have beaten the Huskies 31-14.

Maybe the worst part is you can't coach away lapses like Wynn's horrendous interception in the second quarter, a bullet straight into the hands of the defender while Chistopher was wide open behind him in the End Zone. You can't coach away Lacy's killer fumble on the opening kick off; you tell him to keep fighting till he's down, to keep fighting for that seam and maybe he'll break loose for a long return. But the risk is that someone will strip the ball amid these heriocs and disaster will ensue; and you can't coach that from happening. Shit happens.

It's awful to contemplate that so much of life is so random, so arbitrary. But it is. It just is.

[smokymountainrain]

Reality day.

1. The jump from the MWC to the Pac really is a big one.

2. A bad Pac-12 defense > than a good MWC/independent mid major defense.
3. No Wynn, all bets are off.

4. Win or lose, I will enjoy this season because being in the Pac > than being in the MWC.

This post is cute. The PAC is garbage and your division is the worst of the two. This is the same PAC-12 defense that gave up 27 points to Eastern Washington, 32 points to Hawaii and 51 to Nebraska.



A couple other examples of stellar PAC-12 defenses...

The USC team that put up 48 against Arizona's PAC-12 defense, could only manage 19 points at home against Minnesota's defense - the same Minnesota defense that gave up 58 points to Michigan yesterday.

The same Colorado team that scored 27 against Washington State, could only get 17 against Hawaii, 14 against Colorado St (Utah St scored 34? against CSU) and 17 against Ohio St.

UCLA's PAC-12 defense gave up 38 to Houston and 49 to Texas (remember BYU's independent Mid Major gave up 17 to that same Texas team?)

[kccougar]

So all that talk a couple seasons ago about the PAC(1) was a bunch of crap, I guess. PAC12 is a step up indeed.

Cougar fans can take satisfaction in the fact that BYU beat the Huskies last year even with the rotating QB fiasco. On the other hand, the Big12 next year is going to be absolutely brutal for the Cougars.

Sure, that's great and all, but a few more seasons of losing 5 conference games per year and Whit's out of a job.

Good post.

[Viking]

Reality day.

1. The jump from the MWC to the Pac really is a big one.

2. A bad Pac-12 defense > than a good MWC/independent mid major defense.

3. No Wynn, all bets are off.

4. Win or lose, I will enjoy this season because being in the Pac > than being in the MWC.

Sure, that's great and all, but a few more seasons of losing 5 conference games per year and Whit's out of a job.