BYU's Future

[HuskyFreeNorthwest]

Agreed that the game means nothing in the big picture.

It's the fact that it looked like BYU was on the verge of entering the Big 12 and now will very likely be on the outside of the superconference picture that should have everybody much more concerned.

I wondered when rumors first started if BYU should jump at the first chance given. Put their name in the mix, even if everything dissolved people would know BYU was a player and willing to get in the mix. Perhaps that idea still exists among the decision makers, however with decisions seemingly needing to be made on the fly I wonder if BYU being a methodical plotting decision making institution is viewed as a negative.

[CJF]

What a bunch of chicken littles. All this doom and gloom didn't exist on Friday. Everyone was happy then. So what happened to cause this sea change? What is it that suddenly augurs the end of BYU sports? One team score 43 more points than they did in one game. That's it. Big stinkin' deal. It happens all the time. If this happens thre or four more times this year that is a problem. But one game? Du calme mes freres.

Have you not heard that the ACC just went to 14 with the intent to go to 16? The SEC will be right behind. The doom and gloom is directly related to BYU's future affiliation and nothing to do with the results last night.

I'm praying that this movement is spooking ND and there is a reason for the Big 12 to stay together. That is depressing

[jay santos]

What a bunch of chicken littles. All this doom and gloom didn't exist on Friday. Everyone was happy then. So what happened to cause this sea change? What is it that suddenly augurs the end of BYU sports? One team score 43 more points than they did in one game. That's it. Big stinkin' deal. It happens all the time. If this happens thre or four more times this year that is a problem. But one game? Du calme mes freres.

It's the conference situation.

And also the game showed the differences in the programs. That Utah could dominate us like this in a year we were supposed to win. A strong Utah program is not good for us.

[creekster]

I think it was 44.

Who's counting?

[HuskyFreeNorthwest]

Who's counting?

The scorekeeper.

[venkman]

It's the conference situation.

And also the game showed the differences in the programs. That Utah could dominate us like this in a year we were supposed to win. A strong Utah program is not good for us.

Yes. This game left little doubt that Utah is now the top program in the state. And it seems iffy we can turn that around. Given the fact that Utah is in and BYU is most likely out, the competitive advantage we had in attracting the best LDS talent will be weakened if not lost to the utes.

This is feeling like a Utah State left out of the WAC circa 1964 moment. No, the sky isn't falling, but the sun may be setting on big time college football at the Y.

[MarkGrace]

This thread keeps getting worse. People, get it together. This is livecoug's life we're talking about here and he's got little ones at home!

[TheBYUGuy]

Heaps cannot handle making one mistake in a football game, he's incapable of bouncing back. Once he's in the hole, he's content to just perform damage control and just make conservative decisions.

Were we watching the same game? Heaps came back fromthat initial mistake and threw for over 300 yards, and he was throwing down the field a LOT in the first half especially.

[creekster]

It's the conference situation.

And also the game showed the differences in the programs. That Utah could dominate us like this in a year we were supposed to win. A strong Utah program is not good for us.

Yes, the conference situation is less than inspiring. It might be bad, it might be OK. Time will tell. It is unlikely, IMO, that BYU will ever be one of the leading figures in the changes. It will be, as it has been, a secondary player in the football scene. Thus, it will take time to see what options it has and where it might fit. None of this is news and nothing happened this weekend, including the ACC news, that really changes that dynamic.

Also, one game does not reflect which program is necessarily better. It might, but it doesn't necessarily do so. Utah looked pretty good, but BYU looked awful. TO be honest, if Utah had done that in a game where BYU did not lose 6 fumbles I would be more concerened. I realize funbles are part of the game, but they can alsoi be easily corrected. Moreover, this is the same team that held Texas to 17 in Austin. It is not a horrible team. It is a pretty good team. It may not be as good as we hoped or as we would like, but it is a good team. This was just a bad, bad weekend.

[creekster]

The scorekeeper.

It was amusing to me thqt the scoreboard operator took the score down very quickly after the game; like he was already trying to purge the memory.

[KillerDog]

Were we watching the same game? Heaps came back fromthat initial mistake and threw for over 300 yards, and he was throwing down the field a LOT in the first half especially.

I agree, I thought Heaps was fine. I thought our OC was horrible and I think our RB coach is clearly lacking.

[TripletDaddy]

BYU officially "not hot"

http://cfn.scout.com/2/1107984.html

8. BYU
This was supposed to be the bounceback/breakthrough season … oops. The Cougars have yet to score more than 16 points in a game, and Saturday’s loss to rival Utah was an epic implosion. The Utes’ 54-10 win was their largest margin of victory in the series since 1922. BYU turned the ball over seven times, rushed for 11 yards and allowed Utah’s John White to stutter-step his way to 174 yards and three scores on 22 carries.

[DapperDan]

Yes, the conference situation is less than inspiring. It might be bad, it might be OK. Time will tell. It is unlikely, IMO, that BYU will ever be one of the leading figures in the changes. It will be, as it has been, a secondary player in the football scene. Thus, it will take time to see what options it has and where it might fit. None of this is news and nothing happened this weekend, including the ACC news, that really changes that dynamic.

Also, one game does not reflect which program is necessarily better. It might, but it doesn't necessarily do so. Utah looked pretty good, but BYU looked awful. TO be honest, if Utah had done that in a game where BYU did not lose 6 fumbles I would be more concerened. I realize funbles are part of the game, but they can alsoi be easily corrected. Moreover, this is the same team that held Texas to 17 in Austin. It is not a horrible team. It is a pretty good team. It may not be as good as we hoped or as we would like, but it is a good team. This was just a bad, bad weekend.

The conference situation is looking bleak right now. "Less than inspiring" was a couple weeks ago when only OU and OSU were looking to jump. We're well past that now.

Regarding Utah, they have beaten BYU 7 out of the last 10 games. That's a pretty negative trend for BYU and makes it much harder to write this last loss off as some sort of anomaly.

[creekster]

The conference situation is looking bleak right now. "Less than inspiring" was a couple weeks ago when only OU and OSU were looking to jump. We're well past that now.

Regarding Utah, they have beaten BYU 7 out of the last 10 games. That's a pretty negative trend for BYU and makes it much harder to write this last loss off as some sort of anomaly.

Nothing has changed about the conference situation. BYU is and has been watching and waiting. Events may be working against our interests but that has always been a possibility.

[jay santos]

Nothing has changed about the conference situation. BYU is and has been watching and waiting. Events may be working against our interests but that has always been a possibility.

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Chatter about the Big 12 collapse is getting louder by the day. Pitt going to ACC over Big 12 is another bad sign.