BYU over the next 3 years.....

[Color Me Badd Fan]

Maybe as a unit BYU is better (it's certainly more experienced), but anyone who would take Hoffman ahead of Devonte Christopher just isn't paying attention or chooses to be ignorant. It's a claim so ludicrous, it's not even worth dissecting.

Christopher's stats as a Freshman: 2 receptions for 38 yards for 0 TDs.

Hoffman's stats as a Freshman: 42 receptions for 527 yards and 7 TDs.

And it's not like Christopher had a resoundingly better year than Hoffman last year. He had fewer touchdowns and only about 170 more yards receiving. But that should be expected out of a guy with another year of experience. As usual you look like an asshole with your hyperbole. A 6'4 "possession" receiver can absolutely dominate at the college level with the midgets that play in most college secondaries, the same cannot be said in the NFL.

[Goatnapper'96]

Sounds like the dude has back now a days. I think Jake might end up being a four year kid. The main reason is because of his size. The kid has a great arm and has shown he has a really good football mind. I don't think he has the ideal size that the NFL wants. This isn't saying he won't make it in the pros or be a good pro, it is only saying he doesn't have the 6'4/6'5 225 pound body that the guys that are leaving early to be 1st rounders have.

Big Butts and 4 years of Jake. For a Ute from Helper, you are making my nipples hard!

[Jarid in Cedar]

Christopher's stats as a Freshman: 2 receptions for 38 yards for 0 TDs.

Hoffman's stats as a Freshman: 42 receptions for 527 yards and 7 TDs.

Not an apt comparison. There was no one on BYU that was the caliber of David Reed for Hoffman's freshman season. Reed basically dominated the passing game for Utah during DVC's feshman campaign. Plus Christopher was converted to receiver prior to his freshman, so I doubt that anyone expected him to contribute that season more than he did.

[Color Me Badd Fan]

Hyperbole, anyone? You just projected a kid with all of one 100-yard receiving game in his career to have the same career path as an NFL Hall of Famer.

Christopher? He uses his body well, has good hands and can outrun a majority of FBS defensive backs. He'll likely never be like Juron Criner (his HS teammate), but he should be a 50-60 grab player for the next two seasons and challenge for all-Pac 12 honors.

Hyperbole anyone? You just projected a kid who had a goose egg in Utah's biggest game of the year to challenge for all Pac 12 honors.

I don't think you're capable of critical thinking. You should stick with analyzing the prospects for Wichita's semi-pro baseball team, no one will call you on your bullshit there because no one's paying attention.

[Hot Lunch]

Not an apt comparison. There was no one on BYU that was the caliber of David Reed for Hoffman's freshman season. Reed basically dominated the passing game for Utah during DVC's feshman campaign. Plus Christopher was converted to receiver prior to his freshman, so I doubt that anyone expected him to contribute that season more than he did.

Jereme Brooks had 50 to 60 catches that year as well.

[Color Me Badd Fan]

Not an apt comparison. There was no one on BYU that was the caliber of David Reed for Hoffman's freshman season. Reed basically dominated the passing game for Utah during DVC's feshman campaign. Plus Christopher was converted to receiver prior to his freshman, so I doubt that anyone expected him to contribute that season more than he did.

Sure it's an apt comparison -- it's always apt when the disparity is so absolutely enormous. Utah's QBs combined for about 3,000 yards in 2009 and I would expect someone who's irrefutably better than Hoffman and someone who is going to "challenge for all Pac 12" honors to get more than 38 yards of that as a freshman when Hoffman gets over 500 yards as a Freshman and 7 TDs.

David Foote from BYU, a scrub running RB, had similar stats to Devonche's stats from his freshman year.

[TexTechCoug]

The big thing everyone is overlooking is coaching. BYU's receivers were essentially w/o a coach the last couple of years. I think there will be a visible improvement in technique, routes, hands of the entire group. I think guys that are willing to listen and work will be dramatically better, including Jacobsen.

[SoCalCoug]

Hoffman's an interesting guy. BYU fans think he's a Randy Moss athletic freak kind of guy because he's so tall and he looks (skin = black) like he should be fast and athletic. But he's a little on the slow side for a receiver and not that athletic when it comes to running routes. He's a solid possession receiver but nothing flashy.

He's a little bigger and a little faster than Michael Reed. I was a huge fan of Michael Reed, and I think he was underappreciated by the fans. I like this trend in our possession receivers. I think he'll be a great complement to Ross Apo.

[Blueintheface]

Sounds like the dude has back now a days. I think Jake might end up being a four year kid. The main reason is because of his size. The kid has a great arm and has shown he has a really good football mind. I don't think he has the ideal size that the NFL wants. This isn't saying he won't make it in the pros or be a good pro, it is only saying he doesn't have the 6'4/6'5 225 pound body that the guys that are leaving early to be 1st rounders have.

The average height of the starting QBs in the NFL last year was 6'3''. If Jake demonstrates the mental capacity to lead he will be just fine.

[Top Ute]

Christopher's stats as a Freshman: 2 receptions for 38 yards for 0 TDs.

Hoffman's stats as a Freshman: 42 receptions for 527 yards and 7 TDs.

And it's not like Christopher had a resoundingly better year than Hoffman last year. He had fewer touchdowns and only about 170 more yards receiving. But that should be expected out of a guy with another year of experience. As usual you look like an asshole with your hyperbole. A 6'4 "possession" receiver can absolutely dominate at the college level with the midgets that play in most college secondaries, the same cannot be said in the NFL.

You forgot about the part where Devonte played in one fewer game. Or averaging about 5 more YPC. Or the circus grab he made against BYU for a TD that was Swann-esque. Or the nitro-fueled catch and run he had against Pitt. Or the fact that he actually had more catches than a dead person (which Hoffman might as well have been for this game) against TCU.

Christopher's best game came early against a team that ranked in the top 30 in PED. Hoffman's best game (and his only exceptional game) came late against a depleted secondary that barely cracked the top 70 nationally.

Only a stone-cold moron could look at the season's Christopher and Hoffman had and declare the latter a better receiver.

[Top Ute]

Sure it's an apt comparison -- it's always apt when the disparity is so absolutely enormous. Utah's QBs combined for about 3,000 yards in 2009 and I would expect someone who's irrefutably better than Hoffman and someone who is going to "challenge for all Pac 12" honors to get more than 38 yards of that as a freshman when Hoffman gets over 500 yards as a Freshman and 7 TDs.

David Foote from BYU, a scrub running RB, had similar stats to Devonche's stats from his freshman year.

Why are you changing the argument? This is about who is the better receiver heading into 2011 -- not what they did or didn't do as a freshman two years ago.

Christopher had better numbers, playing in fewer games and with lesser QBs (your words, not mine). Yet Hoffman is somehow better. Must be your superior "critical thinking" skills, right?

(My question was rhetorical. You changed it because I shredded your claims, and can't try and pass off Hoffman as the more accomplished receiver heading into 2011.)

[Art Vandelay]

You forgot about the part... circus grab he made against BYU for a TD that was Swann-esque.

Yes. Yes, I had forgotten about that. Thanks for the reminder. Jerk!

[Top Ute]

Yes. Yes, I had forgotten about that. Thanks for the reminder. Jerk!

If it makes you feel better, take away that catch and the Hail Mary vs. SDSU, and we lose five straight to end last season.

[LiveCoug]

I'm from Dallas and I'm loyal to the Republic of Texas.

Very disappointing.

[Viking]

Very disappointing.

Sorry to disappoint but I bleed burnt orange, not blue.