What university is the real quarterback U?

[Sizzle]

Purely opinion based, but it was a good read for me as far as past QB's who have been successful in the NFL and the schools that they played at. (I'm not a huge NFL follower). Interesting enough, this guy thinks that BYU is #5.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/5...otball/page/24

Sorry but linking bleacher report as an authority on anything, you might as well just link Cougarboard.

[Sizzle]

To be "quarterback U," why consider whether the NFL success of the players?

Per that definition, BYU should discount Ty Detmer and truthfully most of their QBs..was Gifford Nielsen really a good NFL QB? he was basically a back up his whole career and didnt last very long. Same with Robbie Bosco, Marc Wilson and most everyone except Jim and Steve. Utah should discount Alex Smith's college performance because he sucks in the NFL.

These schools that gloss themselves "tailback U" or "quarterback U" do so because the success their players have in college, not necessarily because the players then go on to be great NFL players (although there is often correlation).

As to the question, Miami co-opted the term "Quarterback U" and most college football folks would probably recognize Miami as the holder of such a title. Do people refer to BYU as "quaterback U?" I have heard BYU called a "quarterback factory," and seem to recall a poster of LaVell standing in some factory that was mass producing quarterbacks. I dont really recall many people (outside of maybe BYU fans) calling BYU "quarterback U," although there probably have been some.

In the past 6 or so years, I noticed some SC pundits trying to give SC that title (not many schools have won 2 Heismans at the QB position...in fact, besides Miami and SC, anyone else?) but SC has always called itself Tailback U, its recent string of QB success notwithstanding. In the history of college football, SC has not really been known for its long pedigree of All American QBs, so I think the recent gloss is way premature.

I know Penn State calls itself "linebacker U," which seems to make some sense, as well.

Gotta agree with DDD. BYU has had a great line of QBs, very successful QBs, but only really two who have done anything at the pro level that would be "above average" in McMahon and Young. Detmer was a career backup, who played in only 54 games over 14 seasons and had a not so hot 74 QB rating. Don't get me wrong, I love Ty, but let's not write revisionist history that he was the greatest backup QB in the last 20 years. He wasn't. After Young and McMahon, the next best Cougar pro was probably Marc Wilson, then Detmer, then Gifford Nielsen. And let's be honest, those three didn't really accomplish much to give credibility to a "QB Factory" or "QB U".

Miami was the Original QB U. Let's not be like another school we're too familiar with at this place in ripping off one of "The U's" traditions.



Also, for Triple, Florida has at least 3 Heisman winners at QB (Spurrier, Wuerfel and Teblow) so they may be at the top of the QB Heisman list. Florida State had Charlie Ward and Chris Weinke win it. (I guess that means Florida is the official state of Heisman winning QBs... no?) Oklahoma also had Jason White and Sammy Braford win the statue (Babs, disappointed you didn't correct Triplet with this one. Your Longhornification is well on its way apparently). BYU will shortly join the list with Detmer and Heaps.

[TripletDaddy]

I think that clearing the bar in the NFL is the best measurement of real quarterbacking ability. It's what exposes Tommy Chang (or Timmy Chung? whatever) as a system product.

But if an NFL team will give you a shot and put you on its roster and you can hang around the league for a few years, you've shown something.

I do rate 'pro-bowl' level performance as something of a separate level - but you'll notice from the QBs I'm listing that I'm also giving universities credit for having guys who just made it in the NFL, whether or not they were stellar.

This is in part because I think there is something at least a little circumstantial about who makes it once QBs are there. If Steve Young doesn't make it to SF he might go down as a mad scrambler who last 5-6 years and then disappeared. If Trent Green doesn't get injured in the 1999 pre-season who knows when or if we hear from Kurt Warner, who defaulted into the starting role as a result of Green's injury?

But I give BYU credit for producing QBs like Nielsen and Wilson who lasted at least five years in the NFL and a QB like Detmer who lasted more than a decade, even if it was as a journeyman.

Well, then per that logic, I guess Mississippi Valley State University should now be known as Wide Receiver U.

[happyone]

Alabama produced Bart Starr, Joe Namath and Ken Stabler.

Don't forget Richard Todd and Scott Hunter - Okay the only way anyone would know Hunter is if he were a Green Bay fan for many many years, Todd had a decent career with with the Jets

Notre Dame - Paul Hornung, Well Hornung was converted to a running back, but he was a QB at ND and the first couple of years at GB

Cal - Aaron Rogers, Steve Bratowski (SP), Joe Kapp

[OrangeUte]

Sorry but linking bleacher report as an authority on anything, you might as well just link Cougarboard.

It's actually a good summary of the names.

[TripletDaddy]

Also, for Triple, Florida has at least 3 Heisman winners at QB (Spurrier, Wuerfel and Teblow) so they may be at the top of the QB Heisman list. Florida State had Charlie Ward and Chris Weinke win it. (I guess that means Florida is the official state of Heisman winning QBs... no?) Oklahoma also had Jason White and Sammy Braford win the statue (Babs, disappointed you didn't correct Triplet with this one. Your Longhornification is well on its way apparently). BYU will shortly join the list with Detmer and Heaps.

Cool, thanks for that list. I wasnt saying there were none, just that I wasnt aware. But i was way off.

You are right, the Florida schools really pump out great college QBs.

I checked and realized that there are lots of schools with at least 2 QB Heismans. In fact, in looking at this list, I am now of the opinion *gasp* that Florida and Notre Dame have a much better claim to being "quaterback U" than Miami.

Notre Dame: 4
Florida: 3
Florida State: 2
Miami: 2
Oklahoma: 2
USC: 2
Ohio State: 2 (Is Troy Smith the most forgettable Heisman winner of the past decade?)
Auburn: 2

[fullyinvestedgirl]

Sorry but linking bleacher report as an authority on anything, you might as well just link Cougarboard.

That's why I said it was purely opinion based. I'm fully aware of what bleacher report is.

[Babs]

Sorry but linking bleacher report as an authority on anything, you might as well just link Cougarboard.

Well you've gotta admit it is pretty much the unrivaled authority on such critical matters as the 'fifty best racks in sports.'

[wuapinmon]

Well you've gotta admit it is pretty much the unrivaled authority on such critical matters as the 'fifty best racks in sports.'

I'd say that SportsByBrooks has that one in the bag.

[Babs]

I'd say that SportsByBrooks has that one in the bag.

check that, Sizzle. wuapinmon is a rival authority on such matters as the 'fifty best racks in sports.' Why am I not surprised...

[wuapinmon]

check that, Sizzle. wuapinmon is a rival authority on such matters as the 'fifty best racks in sports.' Why am I not surprised...

I'm not an expert, just a supporter.

[Babs]

I'm not an expert, just a supporter.

I don't know. You sure seem awfully familiar with the resources available.

[wuapinmon]

I don't know. You sure seem awfully familiar with the resources available.

I'm guileless, having detailed my past struggles, so you can keep fishing, dearie.

[Babs]

I'm guileless, having detailed my past struggles, so you can keep fishing, dearie.

Yes. And it's good to see you've overcome them so successfully.

[wuapinmon]

Yes. And it's good to see you've overcome them so successfully.

Yes, but I may turn into a pillar of salt if I look back at some of those SbB girls, so, I'm going to go bathe in the backyard, using the falling snow as my water source.