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  • #16
    Originally posted by Maximus View Post
    How anyone can say Utah 08 is better than TCU 2010 or even Utah 2004 is beyond me. Having a better win does not automatically mean they are a better team. Utah 2008 struggled with many of the teams they played. Utah 2004 did not. TCU 2010 had what 1 close game during the regular season?

    Utah 2008 is probably not even the 2nd best of all of them.
    lol the BCS computers and AP voters agree with me, and disgree with you, as you'll see when the 2010 season is over. 2008 Utah will remain the highest ranked by the computers and have received the most AP no. 1 votes of all time among non-AQs.

    Maximus vs. AP/BCS computers. Who knows best?

    Direct your brain power, not your hate, in all things.
    When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
      1) 2008 Utah. The grandaddy of them all. The Utes complete their evolution to AQ specie on top of the non-AQ heap in this exclusive ranking. This Utah team was most impressive in its bowl, trouncing 11-1 Nick Saban coached Alabama in the SUG, Alabma's back yard, and played the toughest regular season schedule of the non-AQ BCS qualifiers.
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      6) 2009 TCU. Lost.

      #1's toughest regular season win was a 3-point win at home against a much poorer version of #6. Who else did they play?
      At least the Big Ten went after a big-time addition in Nebraska; the Pac-10 wanted a game so badly, it added Utah
      -Berry Trammel, 12/3/10

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      • #18
        Originally posted by ERCougar View Post

        #1's toughest regular season win was a 3-point win at home against a much poorer version of #6. Who else did they play?
        The AP and BCS rankings stand behind my ranking. The no. 1 spot is not debatable.
        When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

        --Jonathan Swift

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        • #19
          Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
          You disagree? Do you honestly think if they had played Auburn and lost everything would have transpired the same? I'll tell you this much you would not have finished #2 if you had lost to Auburn. And you wouldn't have had Kyle rolling and waving in a Ken Garff Audi.

          I know that you all would have loved a shot at the title. But look at everything that has happened as a result of beating up on worthless Pitt. Embrace that.
          "Nobody listens to Turtle."
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          • #20
            Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
            lol the BCS computers and AP voters agree with me, and disgree with you, as you'll see when the 2010 season is over. 2008 Utah will remain the highest ranked by the computers and have received the most AP no. 1 votes of all time among non-AQs.

            Maximus vs. AP/BCS computers. Who knows best?

            Direct your brain power, not your hate, in all things.
            I'll take Sagarin over the AP voters or the screwy BCS formula. 2004 Utah is #4 (behind one of the most dominant teams we've seen in a while), 2008 Utah is #5 (after a really nice, but sort of fluky bowl win). Go by the Sagarin predictor and 2004 stays at #4, while 2008 drops to #10.
            At least the Big Ten went after a big-time addition in Nebraska; the Pac-10 wanted a game so badly, it added Utah
            -Berry Trammel, 12/3/10

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            • #21
              Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
              The AP and BCS rankings stand behind my ranking. The no. 1 stop is not debatable.
              Answer the question, counselor. Who else did they play? How are you justifying your "toughest regular season" claim?
              At least the Big Ten went after a big-time addition in Nebraska; the Pac-10 wanted a game so badly, it added Utah
              -Berry Trammel, 12/3/10

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Surfah View Post
                You disagree? Do you honestly think if they had played Auburn and lost everything would have transpired the same? I'll tell you this much you would not have finished #2 if you had lost to Auburn. And you wouldn't have had Kyle rolling and waving in a Ken Garff Audi.

                I know that you all would have loved a shot at the title. But look at everything that has happened as a result of beating up on worthless Pitt. Embrace that.
                This is a silly game. What if BYU had lost to 6-5 Michigan in the 1984 Holiday Bowl? That's the kind of things rival fans fantasize about.
                “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
                ― W.H. Auden

                "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
                -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons

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                --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                  TCU won the grandaddy of them all. The original and most prestigious bowl game. I really respect what TCU was able to do this year, building off the foundation BYU laid for all mid majors when it won the national championship in 1984 and later when it's New Years Day victory in the Cotton Bowl gave birth to the BCS.

                  TCU is legit and should be recognized as such. They are definitely worthy to carry the torch BYU lit back in 1984.
                  Too bad BYU was 40 years late to the party when it came to winning a national title.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Top Ute View Post
                    Too bad BYU was 40 years late to the party when it came to winning a national title.
                    What happened in 1944 that relates to this discussion?
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                      What happened in 1944 that relates to this discussion?
                      46 years, then.

                      http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data...nal_champs.php

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Top Ute View Post
                        46 years, then.

                        http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data...nal_champs.php
                        Nice link. It says that TCU won a national championship last year, too. Dunce.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
                          This is a silly game. What if BYU had lost to 6-5 Michigan in the 1984 Holiday Bowl? That's the kind of things rival fans fantasize about.
                          They wouldn't have won a national title.

                          What's silly? I didn't invent this game. Nor did I start it. You and others tonight have wished to have played a better schedule and BCS Bowl opponent.

                          I just don't understand why you guys wished for better competition in 2004. That undefeated season and BCS bowl win propelled your program to unprecedented heights.
                          "Nobody listens to Turtle."
                          -Turtle
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                            Nice link. It says that TCU won a national championship last year, too. Dunce.
                            Hey we have 2 National Championships!!! We won in 1996!

                            http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data...nal_champs.php
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                              Nice link. It says that TCU won a national championship last year, too. Dunce.
                              That's this link, dipshit

                              http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data...nal_champs.php

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                              • #30
                                The 04 Utah team was as good as any non-AQ team ever.

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