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  • #16
    Originally posted by Hot Lunch View Post
    I have talked to a few coaches that have said after a certain amount of hours of film that they end up hurting their game plan/previous production because they start to second guess and get to complex on things.
    Go back the last 10 years and look at the coaches that won the national championship. Urban, Pete, Satan.....seems like for whatever reason, the guys that are 24/7 coaches win it all. Nice guys do finish last, it appears.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
      Go back the last 10 years and look at the coaches that won the national championship. Urban, Pete, Satan.....seems like for whatever reason, the guys that are 24/7 coaches win it all. Nice guys do finish last, it appears.
      I doubt it's the number of hours that is making the difference for the coaches you listed.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by Indy Coug View Post
        I doubt it's the number of hours that is making the difference for the coaches you listed.
        number of hours is a correlation, not a cause. Being consumed with [your activity here] is the primary key to being highly successful.
        PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
          Go back the last 10 years and look at the coaches that won the national championship. Urban, Pete, Satan.....seems like for whatever reason, the guys that are 24/7 coaches win it all. Nice guys do finish last, it appears.
          Oh I agree. It takes some serious dedication to win. I was just sharing a couple of conversations I have had in the past with some coaches.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by Indy Coug View Post
            I doubt it's the number of hours that is making the difference for the coaches you listed.
            I don't know either, but your personal doubt seems much less persuasive than the fact that these NC coaches burn it at both ends on all fronts, including the recruiting trail. Pete spoke of times when he and his assistants slept at Heritage some nights, esp during recruiting season. Pete was getting accolades for winning games, not because Mike Garrett stopped by at 3AM and saw everyone there at their desks.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
              I like how Bronco gets criticism for trying to find a balance between coaching and his family. I bet Andy Reid wishes he would have found that much sooner as well as Urban Meyer. Or the dozens of coaches who get divorced because they decide to be married to the profession.

              I give the guy credit not only is he a successful football coach he has found a way to do it by not completely alienating his loved ones. Just because he does not work until midnight and is back at the office at 4am does not make him a bad coach.
              I actually like this about Bronco as well. But you can't blame me for the dig at my rivals coach and his 5th priority. Bronco obviously has acheived a healthy work-life balance.

              But my question remains unanswered:

              Most coaching staffs have both a head coach and a defensive coordinator. BYU now appears to have Bronco doing both. If he can do both as well as get home in time for supper, then why are all other programs so inefficient. My guess would be that Lance Reynolds shoulders some of the coaching duties for Bronco that typically fall only on other head coaches.

              However if Bronco is doing both, I don't see how it is sustainable.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Hot Lunch View Post
                Oh I agree. It takes some serious dedication to win. I was just sharing a couple of conversations I have had in the past with some coaches.
                ok.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by wally View Post
                  I actually like this about Bronco as well. But you can't blame me for the dig at my rivals coach and his 5th priority. Bronco obviously has acheived a healthy work-life balance.

                  But my question remains unanswered:

                  Most coaching staffs have both a head coach and a defensive coordinator. BYU now appears to have Bronco doing both. If he can do both as well as get home in time for supper, then why are all other programs so inefficient. My guess would be that Lance Reynolds shoulders some of the coaching duties for Bronco that typically fall only on other head coaches.

                  However if Bronco is doing both, I don't see how it is sustainable.
                  BYU won the conference in 06 and 07 while Bronco was doing both. It worked before, I don't see why it wouldn't work now.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                    ok.

                    I don't want to fight. You would kick my butt anyway.
                    I have gotten my ass kicked in a few things over the past couple of days. If there was ever a time to fight and take advantage of it, now is the time.
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                    • #25
                      DDD, wasn't Captain Pete the DC as well for a long period of time for SC?

                      For some reason I thought that he was.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by wally View Post
                        I actually like this about Bronco as well. But you can't blame me for the dig at my rivals coach and his 5th priority. Bronco obviously has acheived a healthy work-life balance.

                        But my question remains unanswered:

                        Most coaching staffs have both a head coach and a defensive coordinator. BYU now appears to have Bronco doing both. If he can do both as well as get home in time for supper, then why are all other programs so inefficient. My guess would be that Lance Reynolds shoulders some of the coaching duties for Bronco that typically fall only on other head coaches.

                        However if Bronco is doing both, I don't see how it is sustainable.
                        Here is my opinion:

                        1.) I think winning is a much higher priority than he lets on. It is just that to his groupie following the truth is not likely to sell as many books.

                        2.) I think Mendenhall tried to be somebody he wasn't and it got him into trouble. He realized it and made the changes to go back to being himself. Clearly, there is an element to being the BYU head coach that is not his cup of postum but is something that just comes with the job. I doubt that part will get the attention it got for a couple of years.

                        3.) I don't know how long Bronco will coach. I don't think Bronco knows how long he will coach. I don't think it will be something he will be able to break away from for some time. I think he will always love the competition and opportunity to work with young men and play a part into molding them into men.

                        4.) I think it likely that Bronco is not going to relinquish the DC responsibilities anytime soon. I think he enjoys it. I think he is good at it. I think he realizes that his team is better when he is involved at a deeper level than just as a CEO. I think he actually enjoys the technocrat aspect of being a DC more than he enjoys the CEO aspect of being a HC.

                        5.) I think he will find a balance between being a HC and being the DC. Just as he has with his family. I am sure many will pull string about it because BYU doesn't win a National Championship but I am pretty sure Mendenhall will have BYU about as good as BYU can be.

                        So essentially I expect him to be the DC, and the HC, for long time. It would surprise me if he retires before being the HC at BYU for at least 20 years- that would be 2025. I think he will be the DC until that time as well.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Hot Lunch View Post
                          DDD, wasn't Captain Pete the DC as well for a long period of time for SC?

                          For some reason I thought that he was.
                          Yes. until around 2005. then it was Nick Holt, then Rocky Seto. Ed O is now in the drivers seat.

                          Pete also had his hand in the offense during the dynasty, as well. Pretty amazing run, actually
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Hot Lunch View Post
                            BYU won the conference in 06 and 07 while Bronco was doing both. It worked before, I don't see why it wouldn't work now.
                            That's a good point.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Hot Lunch View Post
                              BYU won the conference in 06 and 07 while Bronco was doing both. It worked before, I don't see why it wouldn't work now.
                              That was in the wake of the 2005 season where people swore up and down that he couldn't do both -- and cited the very poor defense as proof.
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Indy Coug View Post
                                That was in the wake of the 2005 season where people swore up and down that he couldn't do both -- and cited the very poor defense as proof.
                                Those defenses in 06 and 07 were a couple of the best defenses BYU has seen in a long time. I understand there was some good talent there but it worked and it worked well.
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