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  • SeattleUte
    Faith crisis consultant
    • Nov 2008
    • 20837

    #1

    What is a crappy team?

    I read on ESPN that Utah has only beaten crappy teams. What does that mean? They're crappy because Utah is really good, that's what it means. Crappy is relative. I read 3D's post about his pride at BYU hanging on to win the cliffhanger against Wyoming. LES was rockin' on that last drive. I'm sure those BYU kids who played that game don't think they just beat a crappy team. Good teams are good because they make most of the other teams look crappy. In every endeavor, there are 5% who stand out. Are the rest ipso fact crappy because the good make them look bad? Is Iowa State a crappy team? I don't know. Ask Jeff Lebowski. The world wants to punish the good for being good. It's not their fault most everyone else is crappy.
    When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

    --Jonathan Swift
  • SoonerCoug
    Joycelyn Elders Supporter
    • Nov 2008
    • 4680

    #2
    BYU has a genuinely crappy team.
    That which may be asserted without evidence may be dismissed without evidence. -C. Hitchens

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    • Jacob
      Junior Member
      • Oct 2009
      • 6801

      #3
      Originally posted by SoonerCoug View Post
      BYU has a genuinely crappy team.
      Exactly, yet most of the teams the U has played are even worse. That will be proven over the coming 4 weeks.

      Besides Pitt, Utah's closest game was against WYO. The Utes have played 4 teams that have won a combined total of 4 games...mostly because they have played each other!

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      • LiveCoug
        LA Ute loves me
        • Nov 2008
        • 18489

        #4
        Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
        I read on ESPN that Utah has only beaten crappy teams. What does that mean? They're crappy because Utah is really good, that's what it means. Crappy is relative. I read 3D's post about his pride at BYU hanging on to win the cliffhanger against Wyoming. LES was rockin' on that last drive. I'm sure those BYU kids who played that game don't think they just beat a crappy team. Good teams are good because they make most of the other teams look crappy. In every endeavor, there are 5% who stand out. Are the rest ipso fact crappy because the good make them look bad? Is Iowa State a crappy team? I don't know. Ask Jeff Lebowski. The world wants to punish the good for being good. It's not their fault most everyone else is crappy.
        Exactly. All the teams that Utah has played, all those with really, really bad records, are only crappy because Utah is good. Great point.

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        • Jeff Lebowski
          Corporate lackey for Jesus
          • Nov 2008
          • 69834

          #5
          Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
          Is Iowa State a crappy team? I don't know. Ask Jeff Lebowski.
          Yes, they are truly a crappy team. Today is the first time in history they have beaten Texas.
          "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
          "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
          "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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          • Babs
            Not a Lawyer
            • Nov 2008
            • 17128

            #6
            Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
            Yes, they are truly a crappy team. Today is the first time in history they have beaten Texas.
            I heard that and couldn't help but laugh. Of course it turns out they've only played 8 times, but still...

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            • Jeff Lebowski
              Corporate lackey for Jesus
              • Nov 2008
              • 69834

              #7
              Originally posted by Babs View Post
              I heard that and couldn't help but laugh. Of course it turns out they've only played 8 times, but still...
              What was the line on this game? After ISU's last two games and Texas' big road win last week, it had to be huge. Two home losses this year to lousy teams. I can't imagine what the mood is like down there.
              "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
              "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
              "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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              • EuropeanFootballMale
                Karate/Friendship Master
                • Aug 2010
                • 1339

                #8
                Originally posted by SoonerCoug View Post
                BYU has a genuinely crappy team.
                Seconded

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                • fusnik
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 4475

                  #9
                  Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                  I read on ESPN that Utah has only beaten crappy teams. What does that mean? They're crappy because Utah is really good, that's what it means. Crappy is relative. I read 3D's post about his pride at BYU hanging on to win the cliffhanger against Wyoming. LES was rockin' on that last drive. I'm sure those BYU kids who played that game don't think they just beat a crappy team. Good teams are good because they make most of the other teams look crappy. In every endeavor, there are 5% who stand out. Are the rest ipso fact crappy because the good make them look bad? Is Iowa State a crappy team? I don't know. Ask Jeff Lebowski. The world wants to punish the good for being good. It's not their fault most everyone else is crappy.
                  Ahhhh thanks SeattleVine.

                  Serious question, how much vino do you have flowing right now?

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                  • SeattleUte
                    Faith crisis consultant
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 20837

                    #10
                    Originally posted by fusnik View Post
                    Ahhhh thanks SeattleVine.

                    Serious question, how much vino do you have flowing right now?
                    stone cold sober.

                    I guess we know this much at least: The Utes are not a crappy team.
                    When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                    --Jonathan Swift

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                    • LA Ute
                      Receiver of Memory
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 19512

                      #11
                      I am not sure I see the point of this thread (but why should that matter?). Anyway, it does seem that we are starting to see how the Cougs and Utes have done against common opponents. So far, it seems clear that if BYU is a crappy team, Utah is at least less crappy. That's worth something, isn't it? My guess is that by season's end we'll know more. Or at least we'll have more information to argue about.
                      “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
                      ― W.H. Auden


                      "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
                      -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


                      "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
                      --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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                      • Uncle Ted
                        The Big 12 money shot.
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 28853

                        #12
                        Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                        I guess we know this much at least: The Utes are not a crappy team.
                        Don't worry, SU. If Utah wins all three of their next three games they will get some respect and people will forget that they almost lost to pitt at home.

                        "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                        "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                        "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                        GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                        • Uncle Ted
                          The Big 12 money shot.
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 28853

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                          What was the line on this game? After ISU's last two games and Texas' big road win last week, it had to be huge. Two home losses this year to lousy teams. I can't imagine what the mood is like down there.
                          This game was like Alabama losing to Vanderbilt or tOSU losing to Indiana. The mood is about like this: :igiveup:

                          Mack Brown wasn't happy after the game:

                          “We also told them we’ll look at every play very closely and see what needs to be changed. Four turnovers for us and we only gain one from them. We’re still not forcing enough turnovers. And we’re not protecting the ball on a weekly basis. We’ve done it for two games. We haven’t done it consistently for the year.

                          “To rush for 96 yards and give up 199 yards, the defense didn’t stop the run. This game was very, very similar to UCLA with the arrogance we played with after we beat Tech on defense. Our defense didn’t go out there and line up and stop ‘em. And what our offense did for three quarters was unacceptable ? having six points in this ballgame, kicking field goals. We even missed a field goal.

                          “We had fourth-and-goal from the one, jumped offsides and didn’t make it, which is unacceptable. We missed a field goal, which we haven’t been doing. We threw an interception in the end zone, which we haven’t been doing.

                          “We threw an interception in the end zone, which we haven’t been doing. We get the ball back with a turnover at the end of the game with a chance to win, and we turn it back over to them the next play.

                          “We have a third-and-18, hit the quarterback’s arms, and he throws it up. Their guy goes and gets it. Our guys stand there and watch it.

                          “It’s tough. Didn’t play well. WE said during the week, this team is not good enough to beat anybody unless they all come out and play as a team, and they didn’t. Coaches did a poor job, obviously. I told the players sometimes it’s hard whether you blame coaches or players because the players didn’t get ready to play, and it’s the coaches’ jobs to get them ready to play.

                          “It’s my job to get the coaches ready to play. We’ve got a lot of work to do before we play Baylor next week. It’s disappointing.”
                          The word is out: UT can't beat crappy teams at home. If UT loses to Baylor and A&M it is going to be a very long off season At least now there is some hope that BYU has a chance of beating Texas next year.
                          "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                          "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                          "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                          GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                          • SeattleUte
                            Faith crisis consultant
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 20837

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Ted Nugent View Post
                            Don't worry, SU. If Utah wins all three of their next three games they will get some respect and people will forget that they almost lost to pitt at home.

                            To paraphrase scottie on Boise, it's looking like Utah may have beaten a champion of a BCS conference.
                            When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                            --Jonathan Swift

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                            • TripletDaddy
                              sweet triple
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 58186

                              #15
                              I didn't feel any great pride in byu yesterday, but I did say that I had fun in that last series. The entire game was a snooze fest, so it was great to stand up and cheer and feel some atmosphere for once.

                              Make no mistake, byu should have blown that game open but couldn't do it. Byu had a short field and couldn't even convert 3 points. The offense gave up 9 points, half the game total. Byu is not good this year.

                              As for Utah, the media and public perception is going to be one of relative indifference, at least as it pertains to the other top teams. Why? Because Utah has beaten some crappy teams. I think the utes are using the Boise model...play a weak schedule and go undefeated. In fairness to the utes, scheduling games against Pitt, Iowa state, and noter dame should could for something and it isn't the utes fault that these teams stink this year.

                              Utah has a great squad this season, no doubt. They are cursed that the only good team they will play this season is tcu. I think that is why they will continue to get jumped. While it isn't utahs or boises fault that their opponents don't have great records, it isn't mizzous fault either. And mizzou just beat #1 Oklahoma.

                              I guess the answer to your question....crappy teams are like pornography....you watch them in secret and hope nobody catches you. (also, you know them when you see them)
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