Underachieving college FB programs

[Indy Coug]

Vile fans though (I went to a few games when I lived there).

It's between NYC and Philly. What did you expect?

[Pheidippides]

It's between NYC and Philly. What did you expect?

I expected vile fans. And I got them.

[Indy Coug]

I expected vile fans. And I got them.

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[Hot Lunch]

I also look at natural recruiting base when I think of underachieving teams. If you are in Florida and Texas and you do not compete year in and year out you are underachieving.

TAMU not only sucks at building bonfires but they suck at football as well.
Rutgers has a very fertile recruiting land but they really lack tradition and have never done much other than the Ray Rice years.
South Carolina always solid, never elite. See also Clemson.
UCLA

I almost put Rutgers in my list as well. Jersey is the second best recruiting state in the northeast next to Pennsylvania. I am not sure how they aren't a decent team.

[Indy Coug]

I almost put Rutgers in my list as well. Jersey is the second best recruiting state in the northeast next to Pennsylvania. I am not sure how they aren't a decent team.

I think part of it is that Penn State and the NFL teams just crowd it out of the public consciousness.

[Hot Lunch]

I think part of it is that Penn State and the NFL teams just crowd it out of the public consciousness.

Yeah you are right, I am sure Penn St. owns that territory. I handled that area for awhile at work and when I would talk some sports with my clients in Jersey they all talked about Penn St. being their team.

[CJF]

I was going to say rutgers too. Home of the first ever football game, great recruiting area. Vile fans though (I went to a few games when I lived there).

I love going to RU games and I really hope BYU works out a Home and Home with them. But you're right. Fans out of control. Thousands and thousands of really drunk Jersey kids is not a winning situation.

[Indy Coug]

I love going to RU games and I really hope BYU works out a Home and Home with them. But you're right. Fans out of control. Thousands and thousands of really drunk Jersey kids is not a winning situation.

Rutgers is the closest D-1A team to where I live, so that would be nice.

[RC Vikings]

I almost put Rutgers in my list as well. Jersey is the second best recruiting state in the northeast next to Pennsylvania. I am not sure how they aren't a decent team.

Have you ever seen "The Jersey Shore".

[Blueintheface]

I love going to RU games and I really hope BYU works out a Home and Home with them. But you're right. Fans out of control. Thousands and thousands of really drunk Jersey kids is not a winning situation.

Isn't that area (outside of PA that is) just a horrible area for high school football? This is what I keep hearing but I can't believe that. With the population density it would seem that more kids would come out of that area or at least stay in the area to make local schools better.

[beelzebabette]

Have you ever seen "The Jersey Shore".

I've seen "Sister Wives." Hmmm, rethinking BYU's performance problems.

[Hot Lunch]

Have you ever seen "The Jersey Shore".

Nope. I have seen pictures of the people on it but I have never watched an episode.

[Art Vandelay]

NJ is more of a recruting base than NY, NY doesn't produce as many NFLers as some might suspect. I would say for the population size of NY metro it isn't as big of recruiting base as most people assume. As would be expected NY and NJ are near the top of the list for NBA players.

Without looking who knows the sole NBA player born in Utah?

[RC Vikings]

Without looking who knows the sole NBA player born in Utah?

Kevin Love?

[Bastage]

Without looking who knows the sole NBA player born in Utah?

Fesenko?