Doman's philsophy vs Anae's

[creekster]

I am serious Jay. You are one of biggest and best sports contributors on the board. If you want to start a new thread, then start a new thread. I don't want posters particularly good posters to think that there is some sort of board policy limiting thread creation. There simply isn't. IF you feel your post works better as a new thread then post it as a new thread.

SHould this be in a new thread?

[pelagius]

SHould this be in a new thread?

Probably ... but I figured Anae (and the whole offensive staff) was probably reading this thread and would enjoy my posting wisdom on posting.

[DapperDan]

I don't know what Doman's philosophies are, but my feeling on Anae is that the running game in general is more of a technique to misdirect the defense to allow for more passing than an area the offense should focus on. He's just gone away from the run when it's been working too many times and other times has been slow to realize when it is working.

Ironically he seems like a perfect fit from the stereotypical BYU fan perspective.

[jay santos]

I don't know what Doman's philosophies are, but my feeling on Anae is that the running game in general is more of a technique to misdirect the defense to allow for more passing than an area the offense should focus on. He's just gone away from the run when it's been working too many times and other times has been slow to realize when it is working.

Ironically he seems like a perfect fit from the stereotypical BYU fan perspective.

Another puzzler, that all of a sudden the fan base seems to want to can an OC for passing too much?

[DapperDan]

Another puzzler, that all of a sudden the fan base seems to want to can an OC for passing too much?

It's been a fairly common criticism of Anae for at least a couple years, if not more. As for this year, it's pretty much the only way to go with a FR QB. You certainly wouldn't start aring it out near the end of the half deep in your own territory when you haven't moved the ball well in the first place, because that would be dumb.

[oxcoug]

Agree.

My big question is how are the philosophies today, five years later.

I'm a lot less concerned about Anae's 'philosophy' than I am about his inflexibility, his situational playcalling and his determination to stick with things that don't work. Two coaches might have a nearly identical overarching philosophy, but put it into action very differently.

To put it in terms that Dr Anae would probably be familiar with - I believe in Gardner's 'multiple intelligences' and I don't believe that Anae's intelligence is the intelligence best suited to being OC at BYU.

[Indy Coug]

Another puzzler, that all of a sudden the fan base seems to want to can an OC for passing too much?

You have to be kidding me. After EVERY SINGLE BYU LOSS, a lack of running is cited as a cause of the downfall. It doesn't matter if the defense gave up 72 points or if the offense scored 47 points or if the running game averaged 1.4 yards per carry; if there was a loss, it would have been remedied by a few more running attempts.

[shoganai]

Another puzzler, that all of a sudden the fan base seems to want to can an OC for passing too much?

I firmly believe that there's something ingrained into Mormon culture that makes us hesitant to question the guy at the top - i.e. Bronco. Even under Crowton, there were those that defended him to the bitter end.

Whether or not Anae needs to go, he is in the most criticized position in all of BYU sports save perhaps quarterback.

[oxcoug]

I firmly believe that there's something ingrained into Mormon culture that makes us hesitant to question the guy at the top - i.e. Bronco. Even under Crowton, there were those that defended him to the bitter end.

Whether or not Anae needs to go, he is in the most criticized position in all of BYU sports save perhaps quarterback.

Oh there definitely is - I call it the Mormon Authority Reflex.

And while it might keep some people from criticizing Bronco, I think it also tends to work for ANYONE in a position of authority, including Anae - because the same group of infallible leaders that "called" Bronco "called" Anae as well, right?

In any event - criticisms I have made and have seen made about Anae certainly aren't deflections that should be going to Bronco - they're very specific to what Anae does and does not do as an OC.

[Goatnapper'96]

I firmly believe that there's something ingrained into Mormon culture that makes us hesitant to question the guy at the top - i.e. Bronco. Even under Crowton, there were those that defended him to the bitter end.

Whether or not Anae needs to go, he is in the most criticized position in all of BYU sports save perhaps quarterback.

I don't think it is just mormon culture. Most sports fans usually start by criticizing coordinators. However, I am one that likes to say "fish stink starts at the head." IMO every criticism of Anae is usually a reflection of Mendenhall's personality and coaching philosophy.

There are a lot of swirling issues/innuendo/rumors about the offensive staff. IMO, too much to not believe they don't have legs. Mendenhall is not going to dismiss/fire anyone unless he is really sure. But if he is sure I think he will move decisively. I trust Mendenhall, it is his ship to guide and if it isn't doing well I will blame him. Time will tell us if these issues are deepseated problems that he must address or if it is a symptom of the offense sucking hind titty and when it stops sucking then everyone will suddenly get along. If it is really true that Mendenhall doesn't want Anae around, I am convinced that this is the year Anae will leave. I also don't subscribe to the notion that there are no OCs BYU could land. I would think that coming to be an OC at BYU would look pretty attractive after this year. Great young talent and any improvement will have everyone think you are a miracle maker. I would advise that OC to ride out with Jake Heaps as I doubt his stock will ever get higher, but for a guy looking to make a quick splash for 3 years it would be attractive IMO. Better for Brandon Doman if he is in fact the heir apparant at OC and HC as it would expose Doman to another offensive system/philosophy which would be the next best thing to him leaving BYU for more experience outside the bubble.

BRING BACK THE BEEP TEST!

[jay santos]

I don't think it is just mormon culture. Most sports fans usually start by criticizing coordinators. However, I am one that likes to say "fish stink starts at the head." IMO every criticism of Anae is usually a reflection of Mendenhall's personality and coaching philosophy.

There are a lot of swirling issues/innuendo/rumors about the offensive staff. IMO, too much to not believe they don't have legs. Mendenhall is not going to dismiss/fire anyone unless he is really sure. But if he is sure I think he will move decisively. I trust Mendenhall, it is his ship to guide and if it isn't doing well I will blame him. Time will tell us if these issues are deepseated problems that he must address or if it is a symptom of the offense sucking hind titty and when it stops sucking then everyone will suddenly get along. If it is really true that Mendenhall doesn't want Anae around, I am convinced that this is the year Anae will leave. I also don't subscribe to the notion that there are no OCs BYU could land. I would think that coming to be an OC at BYU would look pretty attractive after this year. Great young talent and any improvement will have everyone think you are a miracle maker. I would advise that OC to ride out with Jake Heaps as I doubt his stock will ever get higher, but for a guy looking to make a quick splash for 3 years it would be attractive IMO. Better for Brandon Doman if he is in fact the heir apparant at OC and HC as it would expose Doman to another offensive system/philosophy which would be the next best thing to him leaving BYU for more experience outside the bubble.

BRING BACK THE BEEP TEST!

I generally trust Bronco as a head coach. I'm not big on his off the field personality, but I respect and value him as a coach. But he's not shown a great track record in his hiring decisions. He tends not to go outside his sphere of influence which is quite small and unimpressive. Holmoe had to step in to force him to take Anae over Charlie Stubbs, who would have been a disaster, IMHO. The Hill hire and promotion obviously was a poor one. The most likely step would be to promote Doman and hire another no name assistant with no experience like Howell, Higgins, Poppinga. I view that as a high risk low reward proposition.

[Goatnapper'96]

I generally trust Bronco as a head coach. I'm not big on his off the field personality, but I respect and value him as a coach. But he's not shown a great track record in his hiring decisions. He tends not to go outside his sphere of influence which is quite small and unimpressive. Holmoe had to step in to force him to take Anae over Charlie Stubbs, who would have been a disaster, IMHO. The Hill hire and promotion obviously was a poor one. The most likely step would be to promote Doman and hire another no name assistant with no experience like Howell, Higgins, Poppinga. I view that as a high risk low reward proposition.

I think the Hill promotion was a disaster. But the original hire was a great hire. He brought in a coach who could teach technique to his dbs and who was also familiar with how to run a 3-4 zone scheme. I think Hill made the defense much better and facilitated Mendnehall going towards a system that is more congruent with BYU's historical recruiting base. Now the promotion was a very, very poor idea. But I think that decision was more about Mendenhall and him wanting to be a Lavell/burgeoning GA than it was Hill. Hill just seemed like the one to put into that role as he was the biggest architect, after Mendehall, of the 3-4 zone scheme defense. Mendenhall just ignored the fact that Hill was being promoted beyond his capacity. My opinion is that Mendenhall is stubborn and opposed to emotional overreactions. He is a bit of the anti-Crowton. This personality trait is a bit of a two edged sword, but I think he learns from his mistakes.

Either way, I am not convinced that Doman would be a bad OC hire in a lot of ways. My prediction of that would be the same basic offensive system and then just some different playcalling. I think Doman is a little more dynamic than Anae and people like that. In the end what matters is how the team performs and that is the only fair way to evaluate Mendenhall.