Vicious hits in CF..

[woot]

http://www.sbnation.com/college-foot...-ncaa-ejection

Mike Pereira thinks that Clowney might have been ejected for his famous hit under the new system.

I really wish somebody would come out and explain how exactly a 6-6 guy is supposed to tackle a 5-6 guy. If you keep your head up, you're going to make helmet-to-helmet contact, but you can't put your head down to avoid that. Yes, you're supposed to hit with your shoulder, not your helmet, but two issues: 1) I doubt there are many cases in which a ref can tell whether the shoulder or helmet hits first, and 2) if these rules wizards had ever played the game, they'd know that the guy you're tackling is mobile, making it difficult to hit him exactly where you mean to.

Head and neck injuries area very big deal, but I'm just not sure these rules changes are going to do anything more than decrease competitive fairness and alienate fans.

And as always, I'll point out that Lewan dominated Clowney in that game; that one hit was the only positive play he had the whole game, and it's the TE that screwed the pooch on it, not Lewan.

[YOhio]

Chris Peterson brought in some guys from a local rugby club to teach rugby tackling.

http://www.rugbymag.com/men's-dii-cl...by-tackle.html

[Harry Tic]

Chris Peterson brought in some guys from a local rugby club to teach rugby tackling.

http://www.rugbymag.com/men's-dii-cl...by-tackle.html

Chris Peterson may well be my favorite coach in college football.

And I'm sure that is not a distinction that he would take lightly.

[Shaka]

It's a smart idea. Football will be forced to change in the near future and you might as well be ready.

[YOhio]

Chris Peterson may well be my favorite coach in college football.

And I'm sure that is not a distinction that he would take lightly.

I like him a lot, too. But Bronco M. is my favorite coach.

[Blueintheface]

I like him a lot, too. But Bronco M. is my favorite coach.

That's because you live so far away.

[smokymountainrain]

I hate Chris Peterson, but mostly because I'm jealous that he isn't/can't be BYU's coach.

[Harry Tic]

I hate Chris Peterson, but mostly because I'm jealous that he isn't/can't be BYU's coach.

I would like to see at least 30% of the new wave of missionaries descend upon his house like swarms of locusts; clean-scrubbed young elders and comely young sisters inundate his Facebook page with messages about the Restoration, his Twitter feeds hijacked by Ken Jennings, David Archuleta, Steve Young, and that one hot actress that is kinda sorta still LDS although not very good at it, and all other social media technologies that have come forth in these the latter days employed for this very purpose, to bring CP to a knowledge of The Truth about BYU's Prophetic Mission® and Football Destiny. And after Chris Peterson had received the missionary discussions from President Monson himself, he would come to BYU. And Bronco would become his defensive coordinator. And verily no weapon formed against that team would prosper.

[Commando]

I would like to see at least 30% of the new wave of missionaries descend upon his house like swarms of locusts; clean-scrubbed young elders and comely young sisters inundate his Facebook page with messages about the Restoration, his Twitter feeds hijacked by Ken Jennings, David Archuleta, Steve Young, and that one hot actress that is kinda sorta still LDS although not very good at it, and all other social media technologies that have come forth in these the latter days employed for this very purpose, to bring CP to a knowledge of The Truth about BYU's Prophetic Mission® and Football Destiny. And after Chris Peterson had received the missionary discussions from President Monson himself, he would come to BYU. And Bronco would become his defensive coordinator. And verily no weapon formed against that team would prosper.

I was about to say what if he was our OC? That team would kick much ass.

[statman]

I remember a few years back when a QB pitched the ball wide, and a LB ran through the line and just clocked him. A flag was thrown (of course) but for what reason? He wasn't throwing the ball. He was now essentially an extra blocker on the play. Nothing in the rules protects him like that. But it boiled down to an unwritten rule you can't hit a QB EVER unless he has the ball and has not yet thrown it.

The one thing that I would do if I were a college football coach is this - if an opposing punter ran the pansy-ass bullshit that they now call a "rugby kick" (run a bit to the sideline, looking to how the defense adjusts and kick (or run or pass) accordingly) I would make sure that my team absolutely DEVASTATED him. Kick returner? You're on your own. We've got a punter to demolish. Any kick return player who gave up the opportunity to hit him is no longer on the kick return team. And that would be the last "rugby kick" you'd ever see. (for the record - punters are protected from being hit if 1) the punter fields the snap cleanly, 2) the punter does not step to either the left or the right before punting, 3) the punter takes no more than three steps before punting the ball, 4) the punter makes no attempt to fake opposing players in any way. If the punter fails on any of those points, the 'roughing the kicker' rule does not apply. Hit his candy ass as he punts it, after he punts it, whatever. I'm not sure why it's not coached. It would put the fear of God into a bunch of godless soccer-loving nancy-boys who fancy themselves football players. They'd start soiling themselves. And that'd give you another reason to hit them...

[Blueintheface]

I remember a few years back when a QB pitched the ball wide, and a LB ran through the line and just clocked him. A flag was thrown (of course) but for what reason? He wasn't throwing the ball. He was now essentially an extra blocker on the play. Nothing in the rules protects him like that. But it boiled down to an unwritten rule you can't hit a QB EVER unless he has the ball and has not yet thrown it.

The one thing that I would do if I were a college football coach is this - if an opposing punter ran the pansy-ass bullshit that they now call a "rugby kick" (run a bit to the sideline, looking to how the defense adjusts and kick (or run or pass) accordingly) I would make sure that my team absolutely DEVASTATED him. Kick returner? You're on your own. We've got a punter to demolish. Any kick return player who gave up the opportunity to hit him is no longer on the kick return team. And that would be the last "rugby kick" you'd ever see. (for the record - punters are protected from being hit if 1) the punter fields the snap cleanly, 2) the punter does not step to either the left or the right before punting, 3) the punter takes no more than three steps before punting the ball, 4) the punter makes no attempt to fake opposing players in any way. If the punter fails on any of those points, the 'roughing the kicker' rule does not apply. Hit his candy ass as he punts it, after he punts it, whatever. I'm not sure why it's not coached. It would put the fear of God into a bunch of godless soccer-loving nancy-boys who fancy themselves football players. They'd start soiling themselves. And that'd give you another reason to hit them...

What if the punter was black?

[Harry Tic]

What if the punter was black?

There is an "Edit" and "Delete Post" button, you know.

[Paperback Writer]

I would like to see at least 30% of the new wave of missionaries descend upon his house like swarms of locusts; clean-scrubbed young elders and comely young sisters inundate his Facebook page with messages about the Restoration, his Twitter feeds hijacked by Ken Jennings, David Archuleta, Steve Young, and that one hot actress that is kinda sorta still LDS although not very good at it, and all other social media technologies that have come forth in these the latter days employed for this very purpose, to bring CP to a knowledge of The Truth about BYU's Prophetic Mission® and Football Destiny. And after Chris Peterson had received the missionary discussions from President Monson himself, he would come to BYU. And Bronco would become his defensive coordinator. And verily no weapon formed against that team would prosper.

Amen! Neverthelss, thou needest to cast they net on the other side of thine boat. For CP and Bronco needest a great army of strippling warriors. For they themselves, mayest not throw the holy football or tackle thine heathen enemy. Yea, this cougar army of strippling warriors needest be measured in all things and be gathered from across the face of this, the promied land. For behold, the time is ripe for the gathering of this great army of warriors in these latter days. Yea verlily, the elect must needs be chosen from California, Texas, Florida, yea, even from the islands of the sea. And for this great and wise purpose, we wait for the further light and knowledge as was promised. That a new law shall be given, that the elect whom my servants signith forth for this great purpose shall abide by the same honor code as all the children of men. That this new law shall be given to all who attend this great tabernacle of learning. And under this new law with his chosen servants, even CP and Bronco, this great army of strippling warriors shall strike down with great vengeance and furious anger all who oppose the chosen, in this, these latter days.

[Vic Vega]

http://www.sbnation.com/college-foot...-ncaa-ejection

Mike Pereira thinks that Clowney might have been ejected for his famous hit under the new system.

I really wish somebody would come out and explain how exactly a 6-6 guy is supposed to tackle a 5-6 guy. If you keep your head up, you're going to make helmet-to-helmet contact, but you can't put your head down to avoid that. Yes, you're supposed to hit with your shoulder, not your helmet, but two issues: 1) I doubt there are many cases in which a ref can tell whether the shoulder or helmet hits first, and 2) if these rules wizards had ever played the game, they'd know that the guy you're tackling is mobile, making it difficult to hit him exactly where you mean to.

Head and neck injuries area very big deal, but I'm just not sure these rules changes are going to do anything more than decrease competitive fairness and alienate fans.

http://tracking.si.com/2013/07/22/so...?sct=obnetwork

I expect CFB to have a frustrating and controversial year. That hit did not look dirty to me. If the flags start flying like some people think they will, CFB will be a very different game.

[The_Douger]

That hit was legal. He just popped him so hard his helmet flew off. He didn't go underneath his chin or spear him.