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Originally posted by cougjunkie View PostI hate to break it to you but chances are neither of your kids will go anywhere with football.Originally posted by fusnik View PostQuestion to devildog, would you allow your super awesome bone crushing teen to work as a crash test dummy?Originally posted by dabrockster View PostHmmmm. Sounds like a call out to me... Maybe next time when sharing your experiences, don't be such a dick...Originally posted by CJF View PostDon't be so thick headed to think you're anything else in this case. It's that kind of attitude that cause kids to play hurt and that does impact their lives later.
Your head is 3 feet in the sand if don't think kids are at risk playing little league football.
I'm a dick for giving my perspective?
Hello pot.... this is kettle.
Rub some dirt on it."We should remember that one man is much the same as another, and that he is best who is trained in the severest school."
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Originally posted by Devildog View PostYou guys crack me up.
I'm a dick for giving my perspective?
Hello pot.... this is kettle.
Rub some dirt on it.I'm your huckleberry.
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I never played football at any level. My parents thought it was too violent. Despite never playing football, I have difficulty walking in the morning because of all the other sports injuries. Fact is, every sport dings you up and every ding has a permanent result. I'll let my kid play whatever because no athletics is unacceptable and no sport will leave you free from pain.
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Originally posted by Devildog View PostYou guys crack me up.
I'm a dick for giving my perspective?
Hello pot.... this is kettle.
Rub some dirt on it.Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.
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Originally posted by KillerDog View PostI never played football at any level. My parents thought it was too violent. Despite never playing football, I have difficulty walking in the morning because of all the other sports injuries. Fact is, every sport dings you up and every ding has a permanent result. I'll let my kid play whatever because no athletics is unacceptable and no sport will leave you free from pain.Te Occidere Possunt Sed Te Edere Non Possunt Nefas Est.
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Originally posted by camleish View Postagreed. even non-contact sports (soccer, ice dancing) can lead to lasting damage, particularly to joints. my kids will have the option to play whatever sport they would like as long as they understand that is secondary to academics.
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Originally posted by KillerDog View PostI had a massive compound fracture in my lower leg and through the growth-plate from playing soccer in 8th grade. It still hurts every morning as I get out of bed.Te Occidere Possunt Sed Te Edere Non Possunt Nefas Est.
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The Rutger's player who looks to be paralyzed is another sign of the seriousness of the hits these players take.
This is a large DL (6'2 270 pounds) who was on the Kick return team. After his hit it was scary and very similar to the hit Rodgers took against BSU. His legs went completely stiff along with his arms.. Then his head is seen moving up and down like he is trying to sit up but his arms or legs were not working..
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I wasn't sure where to put this, but this seemed as good a place as any. NCAA is implementing what Husker fans are calling the "Kenny Bell Rule" against blocks on defenseless players.
http://www.cornnation.com/2013/6/12/...in-defenseless
For those who didn't watch the snoozer of a Big Ten championship game, there is a GIF of the hit embedded in the article. I understand wanting to protect players from blows to the head and lasting brain damage that appears to be a result. But if these rule changes continue football will be a completely different game. Maybe that should be the end goal, I don't know. But that looks like a textbook clean hit to me. It was severe because the Wisconsin player wasn't looking so he didn't brace for it at all.
The rule is essentially saying you are subject to ejection for throwing a hard block on someone who doesn't see you. That's seems crazy to me.
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Originally posted by Omaha 680 View PostI wasn't sure where to put this, but this seemed as good a place as any. NCAA is implementing what Husker fans are calling the "Kenny Bell Rule" against blocks on defenseless players.
http://www.cornnation.com/2013/6/12/...in-defenseless
For those who didn't watch the snoozer of a Big Ten championship game, there is a GIF of the hit embedded in the article. I understand wanting to protect players from blows to the head and lasting brain damage that appears to be a result. But if these rule changes continue football will be a completely different game. Maybe that should be the end goal, I don't know. But that looks like a textbook clean hit to me. It was severe because the Wisconsin player wasn't looking so he didn't brace for it at all.
The rule is essentially saying you are subject to ejection for throwing a hard block on someone who doesn't see you. That's seems crazy to me.I'm like LeBron James.
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Originally posted by Omaha 680 View PostI wasn't sure where to put this, but this seemed as good a place as any. NCAA is implementing what Husker fans are calling the "Kenny Bell Rule" against blocks on defenseless players.
http://www.cornnation.com/2013/6/12/...in-defenseless
For those who didn't watch the snoozer of a Big Ten championship game, there is a GIF of the hit embedded in the article. I understand wanting to protect players from blows to the head and lasting brain damage that appears to be a result. But if these rule changes continue football will be a completely different game. Maybe that should be the end goal, I don't know. But that looks like a textbook clean hit to me. It was severe because the Wisconsin player wasn't looking so he didn't brace for it at all.
The rule is essentially saying you are subject to ejection for throwing a hard block on someone who doesn't see you. That's seems crazy to me.
I don't bring up that point to say he was targeting the head - I think it was a legal good hit. I'm more wondering out loud how it was seen and wonder if we won't see the NCAA doing more and more in an attempt to get players to hit center of mass (chest & body) - and avoid any possibility that hits are causing head injuries.
Funny that the writer says "You can't watch that play and not conclude that the NCAA didn't change their rule just because of that big ht." Actually - while that hit might've gotten attention - I suspect that it is mounting concern about unpaid student athletes risking their future health for our entertainment. And while that hit is one piece of evidence - I would be surprised if any rule change was based solely on that one play.
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Originally posted by Eddie View PostI wish the GIF was a little slower to tell for sure - but it looks like the blocker catches the kid up high with a combination of shoulder pad and helmet. But it's tough to tell if the kid getting hit jerks his head due to whiplash from getting hit lower, or due to the blocker making contact with his helmet. Of course - it doesn't help that he then lands on his head (so even if there were contact with his helmet it is tough to say what might've caused any permanent harm.)
I don't bring up that point to say he was targeting the head - I think it was a legal good hit. I'm more wondering out loud how it was seen and wonder if we won't see the NCAA doing more and more in an attempt to get players to hit center of mass (chest & body) - and avoid any possibility that hits are causing head injuries.
Funny that the writer says "You can't watch that play and not conclude that the NCAA didn't change their rule just because of that big ht." Actually - while that hit might've gotten attention - I suspect that it is mounting concern about unpaid student athletes risking their future health for our entertainment. And while that hit is one piece of evidence - I would be surprised if any rule change was based solely on that one play.
And the rule change doesn't address targeting or hitting lower. It redefines a defenseless player to include someone receiving a blindside block. We're telling blockers to lay off someone who doesn't see you or you might get ejected. I can understand this if you lower the boom on someone not watching 30 yards from the ball. But this was right in the action on a pursuing tackler.Last edited by Omaha 680; 06-13-2013, 01:50 PM.
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Originally posted by Omaha 680 View PostYeah it's a fan site so there is some hyperbole. But I think the point stands that if this block is going to get you ejected then football is going in a strange direction. This is the broadcast video which provides different iso angles starting at about 0:35:
And the rule change doesn't address targeting or hitting lower. It redefines a defenseless player to include someone receiving a blindside block. We're telling blockers to lay off someone who doesn't see you or you might get ejected. I can understand this if you lower the boom on someone not watching 30 yards from the ball. But this was right in the action on a pursuing tackler.“Not the victory but the action. Not the goal but the game. In the deed the glory.”
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