Reggie Bush to lose his Heisman

[Top Ute]

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/footbal...hheisman090710

[smokymountainrain]

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/footbal...hheisman090710

meh, should have been VY's anyway.

[wuapinmon]

I think it's ridiculous to hamstring these athletes like this. I have no problems, at all, with them receiving gifts, cash, and/or a salary for what they do.

We're talking about how many millions BYU is going to make from going independent and signing with ESPN, but the athletes see precious little of that money. The NCAA is ridiculous. I can't tell you the hassles of getting approval for a trip to Costa Rica based on the soccer industry if any soccer players come along.

[dabrockster]

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/footbal...hheisman090710

Bahhhahaha..

[il Padrino Ute]

I think it's the right decision, but I'd rather see the NCAA come down hard on Pete Carroll, as he is the biggest culprit in this entire ordeal and got away Scot free.

[Jeff Lebowski]

I think it's ridiculous to hamstring these athletes like this. I have no problems, at all, with them receiving gifts, cash, and/or a salary for what they do.

We're talking about how many millions BYU is going to make from going independent and signing with ESPN, but the athletes see precious little of that money. The NCAA is ridiculous. I can't tell you the hassles of getting approval for a trip to Costa Rica based on the soccer industry if any soccer players come along.

That is a weak and naive argument. Most athletic programs (including BYU) are funded primarily by the football program and even then, many of them end up losing money. Making college football a professional league would simply decimate all but the major programs.

[DrumNFeather]

I think it's the right decision, but I'd rather see the NCAA come down hard on Pete Carroll, as he is the biggest culprit in this entire ordeal and got away Scot free.

I agree. I'm not sure what taking his trophy away does or proves...but Pete's sitting up in Seattle with a huge contract while his former school sits on probation with a douche of a coach and facing the potential that the sanctions will set the program back several years.

[Flystripper]

meh, should have been VY's anyway.

If they based it on bowl games then yes...but they give out that award before BCS bowls and it is a regular season award.

[Maximus]

I think it's ridiculous to hamstring these athletes like this. I have no problems, at all, with them receiving gifts, cash, and/or a salary for what they do.

We're talking about how many millions BYU is going to make from going independent and signing with ESPN, but the athletes see precious little of that money. The NCAA is ridiculous. I can't tell you the hassles of getting approval for a trip to Costa Rica based on the soccer industry if any soccer players come along.

They are student athletes, not professional.

[myboynoah]

That is a weak and naive argument. Most athletic programs (including BYU) are funded primarily by the football program and even then, many of them end up losing money. Making college football a professional league would simply decimate all but the major programs.

Excellent point. The expansion of women's programs at the level they are able to compete is due to the football cash cow. And it's not as if these kids come away empty handed. At most they get training and opportunity to ply their craft at the highest level and a chance at the NFL. And at least, a college degree if they only apply themselves while in school.

[FN Phat]

Excellent point. The expansion of women's programs at the level they are able to compete is due to the football cash cow. And it's not as if these kids come away empty handed. At most they get training and opportunity to ply their craft at the highest level and a chance at the NFL. And at least, a college degree if they only apply themselves while in school.

Not to mention the traveling, gear, attire, and most importantly, all the college strange they can handle.

[wuapinmon]

That is a weak and naive argument. Most athletic programs (including BYU) are funded primarily by the football program and even then, many of them end up losing money. Making college football a professional league would simply decimate all but the major programs.

Followed by your weak and naive argument; if schools could pay athletes, the whole system would survive save those programs who can't hack it, (and ticket prices would match NFL levels to keep funding the other sports).

I've actually taught these student athletes; they are exhausted, beat to hell, and usually married with kids (at least the ones I taught at BYU). I think perks should be theirs.

[cougjunkie]

That is a weak and naive argument. Most athletic programs (including BYU) are funded primarily by the football program and even then, many of them end up losing money. Making college football a professional league would simply decimate all but the major programs.

My friend that played at Oregon State, said that they were told the cost is about $65,000 per year to support a member of the football team.

[cougjunkie]

Followed by your weak and naive argument; if schools could pay athletes, the whole system would survive save those programs who can't hack it, (and ticket prices would match NFL levels to keep funding the other sports).

I've actually taught these student athletes; they are exhausted, beat to hell, and usually married with kids (at least the ones I taught at BYU). I think perks should be theirs.

Are you serious? I have talked to several student athletes. One of which is one of my closest friends, he was given $1200 per month to do whatever he wanted with, he was given all of his meals for free, they paid his rent (up to $600 per month), he was allowed to go in and get new gear every 2 weeks, shirts, shoes, shorts, track suits etc. Not to mention he was given a new laptop each year, his schooling and books were paid for. Then if they make a bowl game they receive another $1500+ in cash and gifts. He has a PS3, Flat screen TV, and surround sound system from playing in 3 bowl games.

He was also married during this time, his wife worked at the airport making $10 an hour. They were wealthy than any of their college friends.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Followed by your weak and naive argument; if schools could pay athletes, the whole system would survive save those programs who can't hack it,

Which would be most of the universities. Including Tulane for sure.

I know for a fact that just a few years ago, the BYU athletic program was struggling financially. Everyone relies on the football income. In some years, even the basketball team runs a deficit. For most schools, there isn't anywhere near as much extra money floating around as you think there is.

..(and ticket prices would match NFL levels to keep funding the other sports).

You don't think universities already charge what the market will bear for tickets?

"Mr. AD, we could raise our tickets another $50 per seat and still sell out our stadium, but since we don't pay our athletes, we don't really need any more money."

I've actually taught these student athletes; they are exhausted, beat to hell, and usually married with kids (at least the ones I taught at BYU). I think perks should be theirs.

I can't believe you want to see professional student athletes.

What about high school students in successful programs? Should we start cutting them a check?