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  • Originally posted by San Juan Sun View Post
    Almost everything you say is true. Scheduling Wisconsin as the first BCS level H:H series in years, has nicely rounded out our upcoming exhibition seasons. I'm really looking forward to watching all of these games that don't really mean anything on the WorldWide Leader.
    Yeah, I'm really going to miss that MWC championship trophy.
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    • Originally posted by Pelado View Post
      When was the last time we played a game that really meant anything? 1984?
      2010, our last year in a conference.
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      • Originally posted by San Juan Sun View Post
        2010, our last year in a conference.
        Which was the meaningful game that season?
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        • Originally posted by Pelado View Post
          Which was the meaningful game that season?
          Since we started 1-4.... all of them.
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          • Originally posted by San Juan Sun View Post
            Almost everything you say is true. Scheduling Wisconsin as the first BCS level H:H series in years, has nicely rounded out our upcoming exhibition seasons. I'm really looking forward to watching all of these games that don't really mean anything on the WorldWide Leader.
            Little reason to think wisky is actually a 1-1 now. Press release didn't even say if it was.

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            • Originally posted by Maximus View Post
              Little reason to think wisky is actually a 1-1 now. Press release didn't even say if it was.
              Little reason to think it's not. It's been reported as H and H. This is from he BYU press release:

              BYU will travel to Madison to play Wisconsin on Nov. 9, 2013 in Camp Randall Stadium. Future plans for the series will be announced at a later date once details are finalized.
              There may be a 3rd game. Who knows?

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              • Originally posted by Jacob View Post
                Little reason to think it's not. It's been reported as H and H. This is from he BYU press release:



                There may be a 3rd game. Who knows?
                If there is a 3rd that means it isnt a H-H. If it was a H-H, it would probably say the return game will be announced when details are finalized. Points more to a 2-1. or a H H "N"

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                • It would be great to be in one of the nationally respected conferences, but BYU isn't.

                  I still think that playing lousy MWC teams in conference was only marginally better than playing lousy WAC teams since becoming independent. I don't think playing in a conference made those games against poor opponents all that much more meaningful, especially when being MWC conference champs would mean winning a conference without Utah and TCU.

                  BYU has put together an amazing schedule for 2013 and each game's meaning comes from playing an interesting and competitive opponent. Meaning isn't derived from playing in a dieing conference for a mediocre bowl slot.

                  BYU has managed to put together a great late season schedule and get bowl tie-ins without a conference and in spite of getting jilted by the University of Utah. If BYU can parlay Wisconsin and Notre Dame into long term series (especially a more balanced H-H with Wisonsin) and continue to include ACC, and PAC opponents they'll have a interesting and fun schedule.

                  Being independent may not be equal to being in a power conference, but from here it looks better than the MWC in 2013 and beyond.

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                  • Originally posted by Maximus View Post
                    If there is a 3rd that means it isnt a H-H. If it was a H-H, it would probably say the return game will be announced when details are finalized. Points more to a 2-1. or a H H "N"
                    I don't know how anyone has come up with a specific number of games for this series, other than it is more than one. It could be 2, 4, 6 or 10 for all we know.
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                    • Originally posted by Indy Coug View Post
                      I don't know how anyone has come up with a specific number of games for this series, other than it is more than one. It could be 2, 4, 6 or 10 for all we know.
                      The fact that Wisconsin moved around their schedule to accommodate a late season game with us is, IMO, significant. The tenor of comments from Bielema indicate that a longer term arrangement is something in which Wisconsin may have interest. I think they simply needed to announce 2013 for logistical reasons and there is still more to come.

                      Relevant quotes, IMO:
                      Originally posted by Bret Bielema
                      I'm very excited because hopefully it's something that will continue to grow from here, there have been talks beyond next year and that's very intriguing to me.
                      Originally posted by Bret Bielema
                      A lot of teams in the SEC play backend (nonconference) games but they slide in FCS or MAC opponents.
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                      • Yes, you could definitely read Bielema's comments to mean that this will be more than a 2 game series. Holmoe and Bronco have said that there are very few they are willing to do 2-for-1s with and I don't believe Wisconsin is one of those teams. I would expect probably a 4 game series that might be spread out over 6+ years.
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                        • Originally posted by Indy Coug View Post
                          Dude, look at the 2013 schedule. It's more than just about one H:H series.

                          2013+: 4 Home, 6 Road
                          [Aug 31 - @ Washington State]
                          Sept 7 - TEXAS
                          Sept 14? - UTAH
                          Sept 21? - BOISE STATE
                          Oct 4 - @ Utah State
                          Oct 12 - GEORGIA TECH
                          Oct 19 - @ Houston
                          Nov 9 - @ Wisconsin
                          Nov 16 - @ Notre Dame
                          Dec 7 - @ Hawaii

                          Here are some of their 2011 Sagarin rankings:

                          Wisconsin - 8th
                          Boise - 9th
                          Houston - 15th
                          Texas - 17th
                          Notre Dame - 26th
                          Utah - 39th


                          While 2011 rankings are not guarantees of 2013 rankings, there is a solid chance this ends up being the toughest overall schedule in BYU history.
                          It would be nice to have at least one home game in November.

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                          • Originally posted by Rickomatic View Post
                            It would be nice to have at least one home game in November.
                            I agree. Even though that is the home schedule I have been wishing for, it conflicts with my golf which wouldn't be the case with a game or two in November.

                            Still I applaud them for a great schedule and very good home schedule. I am not convinced they will come along all that often.

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                            • Originally posted by Rickomatic View Post
                              It would be nice to have at least one home game in November.
                              I think you are reading this wrong. BYU is truly thinking of its fans. It's much nicer to watch the games indoors in late October, November and December than freezing your ass off outside.
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                              • Originally posted by Indy Coug View Post
                                Dude, look at the 2013 schedule. It's more than just about one H:H series.

                                2013+: 4 Home, 6 Road
                                [Aug 31 - @ Washington State]
                                Sept 7 - TEXAS
                                Sept 14? - UTAH
                                Sept 21? - BOISE STATE
                                Oct 4 - @ Utah State
                                Oct 12 - GEORGIA TECH
                                Oct 19 - @ Houston
                                Nov 9 - @ Wisconsin
                                Nov 16 - @ Notre Dame
                                Dec 7 - @ Hawaii

                                Here are some of their 2011 Sagarin rankings:

                                Wisconsin - 8th
                                Boise - 9th
                                Houston - 15th
                                Texas - 17th
                                Notre Dame - 26th
                                Utah - 39th


                                While 2011 rankings are not guarantees of 2013 rankings, there is a solid chance this ends up being the toughest overall schedule in BYU history.
                                WOW. That is a tough schedule.. But for the team to be on the road 4 weeks straight is even more burtal...

                                Only 4 home games. NO matter how good they are.. That is disappointing..

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