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Does Boise State deserve to play for the BCS title this year?
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I don't hate BSU. They are one of my favorite teams to watch. I don't necessarily cheer for them, though I have. I have rooted for them in their BCS bowls.
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I wish I had an explanation, but I don't. Part of it is because I think they are built on gimmicks and tomfoolery. Part of it is that damned blue field and the loopholes by which they keep it. I would hate them even if I wasn't a BYU fan, and I have no explanation as to why.Originally posted by Flystripper View PostWhy is there so much hate for BSU in the ranks of BYU fans? This has always bewildered me. There is much to admire about their program growing from JC to 1aa to D1 and enjoying powerful success at every stop along the way. Are we jealous of them? I don't see a ton to be jealous of (other than 2 BCS wins) but they are worthy of admiration or at the very least they are worthy of a healthy does of respect.
This isn't so much a question for you Niku because I have noticed that you are not alone in your BSU hate. It just baffles me though.
EDIT: In other words, exactly what Coach said. I don't really hate Utah - oh, sure, some weeks I hope their unrighteousness brings upon then gonorrhea - but most of the time I hope Utah does well, and I really respect what Urban and now Kyle have done with a program that struggled for consistency for many years. When Utah played Alabama, there was no doubt about what shade of red I donned. And if they made it to the NC, I'd hate that we would have (presumably) lost to them on the way, but I'd wish them the best in the game. Part of that is because Utah represents the state in which I grew up. I would likely hate them more if I actually lived there.Last edited by Pheidippides; 09-06-2010, 12:39 PM.
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On my part it is jealousy.Originally posted by Flystripper View PostWhy is there so much hate for BSU in the ranks of BYU fans? This has always bewildered me. There is much to admire about their program growing from JC to 1aa to D1 and enjoying powerful success at every stop along the way. Are we jealous of them? I don't see a ton to be jealous of (other than 2 BCS wins) but they are worthy of admiration or at the very least they are worthy of a healthy does of respect.
This isn't so much a question for you Niku because I have noticed that you are not alone in your BSU hate. It just baffles me though.
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Why is there so much hate for BSU in the ranks of BYU fans? This has always bewildered me. There is much to admire about their program growing from JC to 1aa to D1 and enjoying powerful success at every stop along the way. Are we jealous of them? I don't see a ton to be jealous of (other than 2 BCS wins) but they are worthy of admiration or at the very least they are worthy of a healthy does of respect.Originally posted by nikuman View PostI have to grudgingly admit that this post is sensible. In all of college football, there is no team that I hate quite so much as Boise State. I include Utah in that statement. May they forever be cursed with leprosy so long as their field remains blue.
But I have to say, it's not their fault that their conference is made up of the Wednesday's Children of yesteryear. I laugh lustily that their new conference isn't a whole lot better, now that we've all given the MWC a fervent double-bird of righteousness.
This isn't so much a question for you Niku because I have noticed that you are not alone in your BSU hate. It just baffles me though.
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Originally posted by LiveCoug View PostOriginally posted by nikuman View PostI have to grudgingly admit that this post is sensible. In all of college football, there is no team that I hate quite so much as Boise State. I include Utah in that statement. May they forever be cursed with leprosy so long as their field remains blue.
But I have to say, it's not their fault that their conference is made up of the Wednesday's Children of yesteryear. I laugh lustily that their new conference isn't a whole lot better, now that we've all given the MWC a fervent double-bird of righteousness.Big brothers do not like to see the little brother shine, especially when they light Burns brighter. Sorry, just being honest.Originally posted by Coach McGuirk View PostMy hate for them isn't rational. I don't even know why I loath them. The blue field? The fans? Their stupid mascot? The beat down from '03? Am I just jealous? I don't think so. I do know there is no other team I don't want in a national title game more than BSU and that includes Utah.
I can't explain, it's just how I feel.
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My hate for them isn't rational. I don't even know why I loath them. The blue field? The fans? Their stupid mascot? The beat down from '03? Am I just jealous? I don't think so. I do know there is no other team I don't want in a national title game more than BSU and that includes Utah.Originally posted by nikuman View PostI have to grudgingly admit that this post is sensible. In all of college football, there is no team that I hate quite so much as Boise State. I include Utah in that statement. May they forever be cursed with leprosy so long as their field remains blue.
But I have to say, it's not their fault that their conference is made up of the Wednesday's Children of yesteryear. I laugh lustily that their new conference isn't a whole lot better, now that we've all given the MWC a fervent double-bird of righteousness.
I can't explain, it's just how I feel.
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I have to grudgingly admit that this post is sensible. In all of college football, there is no team that I hate quite so much as Boise State. I include Utah in that statement. May they forever be cursed with leprosy so long as their field remains blue.Originally posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View PostThis plus the fact that they did all they could to schedule OOC games this year. Road game against VaTech and upper tier P10 team, they left the WAC showing that they understand their conference sucks and want to get better.
I am not a BSU fan, but they are doing everything they can to get better.
But I have to say, it's not their fault that their conference is made up of the Wednesday's Children of yesteryear. I laugh lustily that their new conference isn't a whole lot better, now that we've all given the MWC a fervent double-bird of righteousness.
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You make a fair point that split national champs is possible. My comment is more about my dislike/distrust of the BCS.Originally posted by Top Ute View PostBut the AP poll carries the same amount of relevance, IMO. If the AP poll could jump Utah to No. 2 after beating Alabama, there's no reason BSU could be ranked No. 1 at season's end, with the voters knowing full well that BSU has accomplished enough over the past 2-3 years to warrant such a ranking.
I have no problem with split national champions, seeing that's often been the case over the last 100 years or so.
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But the AP poll carries the same amount of relevance, IMO. If the AP poll could jump Utah to No. 2 after beating Alabama, there's no reason BSU could be ranked No. 1 at season's end, with the voters knowing full well that BSU has accomplished enough over the past 2-3 years to warrant such a ranking.Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View PostThe computers will never allow BSU to play for the fake championship.
I have no problem with split national champions, seeing that's often been the case over the last 100 years or so.
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This.Originally posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View PostThis plus the fact that they did all they could to schedule OOC games this year. Road game against VaTech and upper tier P10 team, they left the WAC showing that they understand their conference sucks and want to get better.
I am not a BSU fan, but they are doing everything they can to get better.
What else could they have done? They went on the road (ok, technically, a neutral site, but not really) to face a top ten Va Tech and scheduled as many quality opponents as would pick up the phone. They win their games. If they don't get a shot, then you basically say that nothing they do is good enough.
We're obviously counting chickens before they hatch, since they've not won a single game this year yet, but you get the point.
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The computers will never allow BSU to play for the fake championship.
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I support this post. As a BSU fan I am extremely happy the direction this team is headed. My worry is if we win tonight, too many people will overlook some worthy opponents. OSU and Utah State come to mind real quick. It will be a fun ride and it all starts tonight! Time to get on the road so I can be home in time to watch the game!Originally posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View PostThis plus the fact that they did all they could to schedule OOC games this year. Road game against VaTech and upper tier P10 team, they left the WAC showing that they understand their conference sucks and want to get better.
I am not a BSU fan, but they are doing everything they can to get better.
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This plus the fact that they did all they could to schedule OOC games this year. Road game against VaTech and upper tier P10 team, they left the WAC showing that they understand their conference sucks and want to get better.Originally posted by Flystripper View PostThey will have gone two years without a loss and beaten some good teams on their run. I say give them a shot. Two seasons going back to back undefeated is pretty incredible.
I am not a BSU fan, but they are doing everything they can to get better.
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