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  • #31
    Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
    How can you not include Hawaii in your calculus? Therein lies the problem with this shorterm thinking.

    Hence, Hawaii, Utah, BSU, Cincinnati, Wake Forest and TCU are more relevant programs longterm than schools like Tennessee, Florida State, Miami, aTm, Nebraska and Notre Dame? Ridiculous.
    Apples to oranges. My list of schools was restricted to schools from non-AQ conferences. Those are the programs that BYU is mostly competing against in terms of national relevancy in college football.

    I didn't include Hawaii because they've had some really bad seasons in the BCS era to go along with one BCS bid in which it was totally outclassed.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View Post
      It also seems to be that like Seattle Ute, you are allowing your decision to leave the LDS faith to taint your view of BYU athletics.

      How do you figure based on this thread, Il Pad?
      Last edited by pelagius; 09-01-2010, 06:48 PM.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Top Ute View Post
        I didn't include Hawaii because they've had some really bad seasons in the BCS era to go along with one BCS bid in which it was totally outclassed.
        It's a good thing college football started in 2004 then right?

        Team A

        2005 4th place
        2006 3rd place
        2007 4th place
        2009 3rd place

        Hawaii

        2005 5th place
        2006 2nd place
        2008 4th place
        2009 5th place
        "Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault

        "Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Blueintheface View Post
          It's a good thing college football started in 2004 then right?

          Team A

          2005 4th place
          2006 3rd place
          2007 4th place
          2009 3rd place

          Hawaii

          2005 5th place
          2006 2nd place
          2008 4th place
          2009 5th place
          Great argument. Hawaii is Utah's equal.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Blueintheface View Post
            It's a good thing college football started in 2004 then right?

            Team A

            2005 4th place
            2006 3rd place
            2007 4th place
            2009 3rd place

            Hawaii

            2005 5th place
            2006 2nd place
            2008 4th place
            2009 5th place
            Stop it already. Hawaii has one winless SEASON in the BCS era, and two 3-9 marks. Finishing 5th in the WAC is equal to finishing 7th or worse in the MWC. And remind me who has the nation's longest bowl winning streak? While you're at it, who was the team that allowed the team with the nation's longest bowl losing streak to finally get a bowl win?

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Blueintheface View Post
              It's a good thing college football started in 2004 then right?

              Team A

              2005 4th place
              2006 3rd place
              2007 4th place
              2009 3rd place

              Hawaii

              2005 5th place
              2006 2nd place
              2008 4th place
              2009 5th place
              Total wins trumps conference finish. In that event, Utah was 2nd in the MWC in both 2005 and 2007.

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