Who will be Utah's starting QB in 2010-11?

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  • Blueintheface
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 15382

    #16
    Originally posted by Jarid in Cedar View Post
    Cain was hurt by Asiata's injury as well. Without the inside power running game, the safeties were able to shade more to the slant/hook zone, which made the passing windows on the short passes that much more difficult to complete. I still contend that if Asaita stayed healthy, Cain would have finished the year and Wynn would have redshirt.
    And I still say that had Cain played against BYU, Max Hall never gets a chance to be sore winner. Those half dozen overthrown deep passes that Wynn threw and his lack of foot speed were the deciding factors in that game.
    "Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault

    "Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors

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    • All-American
      Right, as Usual
      • Nov 2008
      • 15661

      #17
      Originally posted by Blueintheface View Post
      And I still say that had Cain played against BYU, Max Hall never gets a chance to be sore winner. Those half dozen overthrown deep passes that Wynn threw and his lack of foot speed were the deciding factors in that game.
      Cain wouldn't have overthrown those deep passes.
      τὸν ἥλιον ἀνατέλλοντα πλείονες ἢ δυόμενον προσκυνοῦσιν

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      • LA Ute
        Receiver of Memory
        • Nov 2008
        • 19512

        #18
        Originally posted by Blueintheface View Post
        And I still say that had Cain played against BYU, Max Hall never gets a chance to be sore winner. Those half dozen overthrown deep passes that Wynn threw and his lack of foot speed were the deciding factors in that game.
        That's right, you guys didn't really win that game, we lost it because we didn't bring our "A" game.

        Originally posted by All-American View Post
        Cain wouldn't have overthrown those deep passes.
        Right, he would have bounce-passed them right into the receivers' hands.
        “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
        ― W.H. Auden


        "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
        -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


        "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
        --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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        • Senioritis
          Mr. Crimson Lover
          • Nov 2008
          • 694

          #19
          Originally posted by Surfah View Post
          Saturday scrimmage numbers:

          Cain 14-18 227 yards 2 TDs
          Wynn 9-20 147 yards 1 TD 2 Ints
          I was there. The guy with the rubber glove was surprisingly gentle.

          Cain is exactly who he was. I personally didn't see him check down a single time. He knows where the ball is going, and he throws it well to the primary guy. It's on the money where he throws it, he just doesn't throw it downfield or to anyone other than the primary guy. He was also throwing against the twos or worse. He looks great, and I'm more than comfortable with him if the need arises, but it's like getting into a relationship with Jennifer Aniston - you're gonna get what you're gonna get and for some reason she can't keep a man. Or something.

          Wynn looked dreadful. The numbers don't do it justice. I think he's like Brett Mahana Elliott, not much of a practice guy, but a real gamer. I sure hope so. However, he looked better than Cain in the run game. The thing about Cain in the run game is that he has the tools to do it, but he doesn't do it well. Wynn was lights out in the read option stuff. Maybe it will be different when he's getting hit, but he was filthy.

          At this point, Utah is great in the ground game, and in stopping the ground game. The defensive line plays with a real social irresponsibility, and they like to hurt people. They are nnnaaassstttyyyyy. Brandon Burton is delicious and pissed off, and I'll be shocked if he's in Utah's fall camp next year. Tap Tap is the key to the DBs, and Blechen, while being a step out of position a lot of the time, doesn't look out of place at all. The linebackers are your average Stanley Roper Utah linebackers.

          Really, Utah's run game should be good enough that the passing game just needs to compliment it. The deep ball threat is key to giving space in the run game, and Cain just simply won't throw the deep ball. Utah will win this year running the ball, and stopping the run. I don't expect them to be explosive, but they'll be tough as hell to beat.

          Last year, the offense was better with Wynn. They scored more points against better competition. Regardless of how he looks in practice, I expect that to be the case this year. I just hope Wynn survives the Pitt defensive ends, so we can see what he can do throughout a season.

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          • Senioritis
            Mr. Crimson Lover
            • Nov 2008
            • 694

            #20
            Originally posted by All-American View Post
            Cain wouldn't have overthrown those deep passes.
            Cain wouldn't have thrown those deep passes. Andrew Rich would have spent the whole game within five yards of the line of scrimmage, and Jerome Brooks would be dead.

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            • LA Ute
              Receiver of Memory
              • Nov 2008
              • 19512

              #21
              Originally posted by Senioritis View Post
              Cain wouldn't have thrown those deep passes. Andrew Rich would have spent the whole game within five yards of the line of scrimmage, and Jerome Brooks would be dead.
              LOL. Well said.
              “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
              ― W.H. Auden


              "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
              -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


              "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
              --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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              • Maximus
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 6016

                #22
                Originally posted by Blueintheface View Post
                And I still say that had Cain played against BYU, Max Hall never gets a chance to be sore winner. Those half dozen overthrown deep passes that Wynn threw and his lack of foot speed were the deciding factors in that game.
                Since when is Cain good at deep passes?

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                • Blueintheface
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 15382

                  #23
                  Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
                  That's right, you guys didn't really win that game, we lost it because we didn't bring our "A" game.
                  Jesus, you need to learn how to take a compliment.
                  "Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault

                  "Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors

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                  • Blueintheface
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 15382

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Maximus View Post
                    Since when is Cain good at deep passes?
                    He's not but perhaps he wouldn't have overthrown wide open receivers as much? Just spit-ballin' though.
                    "Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault

                    "Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors

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                    • YOhio
                      Hipster Mode
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 26165

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Blueintheface View Post
                      Jesus, you need to learn how to take a compliment.
                      LA Ute is NOT Jesus. Not even close.

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                      • Blueintheface
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 15382

                        #26
                        Originally posted by YOhio View Post
                        LA Ute is NOT Jesus. Not even close.
                        Having never broken bread with the man, I'll take your word for it.
                        "Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault

                        "Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors

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                        • Blueintheface
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 15382

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Senioritis View Post
                          Wynn was lights out in the read option stuff.
                          If that's true than that really erases Wynn's only bugaboo from last year, his unwillingness to keep the ball on the read option. That should make every Ute fan very pleased for this year, despite a rough scrimmage.
                          "Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault

                          "Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors

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                          • HuskyFreeNorthwest
                            Time to camp
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 26082

                            #28
                            Originally posted by YOhio View Post
                            LA Ute is NOT Jesus. Not even close.
                            I do see some similarities though
                            Get confident, stupid
                            -landpoke

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                            • LA Ute
                              Receiver of Memory
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 19512

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Blueintheface View Post
                              Jesus, you need to learn how to take a compliment.
                              I was trying to poke fun at fans who make excuses, not at you. As jokes go, it was kind of a stretch (i.e., lame). Sometimes that happens to me. Just ask YO, he always points it out, whether he is right nor not (usually he isn't).
                              “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
                              ― W.H. Auden


                              "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
                              -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


                              "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
                              --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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                              • Blueintheface
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2009
                                • 15382

                                #30
                                Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
                                I was trying to poke fun at fans who make excuses, not at you. As jokes go, it was kind of a stretch (i.e., lame). Sometimes that happens to me. Just ask YO, he always points it out, whether he is right nor not (usually he isn't).
                                Got it. It's not the first time a deity has been misunderstood.
                                "Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault

                                "Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors

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