Will Heaps Transfer

[MarkGrace]

BM says QBs not going to b docked in evaluations when receivers drop passes.

I take this as a pro-Heaps comment. The guy is making the right throws, our WR's just can't hold on to the ball. I get the feeling that his numbers would be much different right now if they could. But as the QB, all you can do is make the right throw.

Regardless of QB choice, Mendenhall says Nelson has a role in the offense and will be used because he is so dangerous and effective.

Heaps is your starter. But like Indy said, Nelson will have some role. That's pretty much all there is to it at this point.

[wally]

I can't tell if the "buddy" reference is a finger-in-your-chest sort of remark or a genuine expression of friendship. It would be much easier to discern you tone if you'd use the provided emoticons!

Regardless of Heaps stated goal of playing in the NFL (btw, how many college FB players do not have that goal?), what is the evidence that he'd have any better chance at starting as a freshman at any other top quality school? I'm assuming that he wouldn't transfer to any other non-BCS team. He wouldn't be starting at Washington, Tennessee or UCLA. I'm not sure I see how transferring would really boost his chances at being drafted, at least not in terms of early playing time.

C'mon pal*, if you were a highly-touted recruit and told that you had a great shot at starting as a true freshman, and then a running quarterback who couldn't hold a candle to you in a passing situation, started over you, you wouldn't be looking around? Add to that that fact that the offense (which suited you perfectly) had to be revamped suit his mobility and lack of deep ball ability.

*I'm not trying to start anything, we're all good.... unless you are smaller than me and I think I can take you, then maybe... maybe.

[MarkGrace]

2. Hans sees Riley Nelson as mistake and error-prone, although he doesn't attribute it to the player personally; more that Nelson's seat-of-the-pants scrambling gives rise to lots of sacks and chain turnovers. Any QB with that style of play has huge risk/reward. Hans is particularly irate that Riley is showing so well during fall camp, because Jaime Hill is spending zero time instructing his 1s to counter Riley's scrambling, since that is so easily defended in a game situation. I think he is worried that Riley looks good now, which will propel him to the first string position, and when faced with a couple of defensive spies in a real game will cough up the ball all day long. Faced with this scenario, Heaps & Co will be complaining loud and long.

I could totally see this happening. Look, we've already seen Riley play and know what he is. He doesn't progress through reads, he's not comfortable in the pocket, under game heat he doesn't have time to make throws, and he's running wild right now because nobody can hit him (though he is a talented runner and I would expect that to continue).

He has great days when they're out there in shells (like today), but as soon as you put him in a position closer to game situation (like the scrimmage last week), we know what he's going to do.

If he's named the starter (and I don't think that's going to happen), I don't think Heaps has cause for concern. It wouldn't last more than two games. Nearly every single damn person who has watched these guys throughout the spring and summer has come away saying that Heaps is clearly the better QB. Why Bronco keeps playing this "there's no separation b/wn the two" game just doesn't make sense to me. My only guess as to why is because he just can't get his head around the idea or a true frosh at QB.

[Jacob]

This is a stupid thing to be speculating about.

[Katy Lied]

In defense of Wally, the radio guys were discussing this topic this morning, which normally I dismiss as muckraking. However, two interesting points were brought up:

1. Heaps & Family suffered a lot for passing up Washington for BYU. A lot. I wouldnt characterize it as persecution, but I think that family fled the area. They are anticipating some sort of payback for their suffering.

2. Hans sees Riley Nelson as mistake and error-prone, although he doesn't attribute it to the player personally; more that Nelson's seat-of-the-pants scrambling gives rise to lots of sacks and chain turnovers. Any QB with that style of play has huge risk/reward. Hans is particularly irate that Riley is showing so well during fall camp, because Jaime Hill is spending zero time instructing his 1s to counter Riley's scrambling, since that is so easily defended in a game situation. I think he is worried that Riley looks good now, which will propel him to the first string position, and when faced with a couple of defensive spies in a real game will cough up the ball all day long. Faced with this scenario, Heaps & Co will be complaining loud and long.

[WashingtonCoug]

You're just a troll

[wally]

Depends on when he enrolls in his new school. I believe NCAA rules mandate a one-year period of ineligibility for transfers. So in the highly unlikely event Heaps went elsewhere, he wouldn't be eligible to play until after he had been at his new school for one calendar year.

Thanks for the clarification.

I hope that the BYU coaches are not refraining from naming a starter to preclude Heaps from starting at another school next year. I doubt that Bronco would meddle with things like that though.

[oxcoug]

If he doesn't start?

This is a topic that local radio guys were discussing when I drove to lunch.

I personally think that if Nelson is chosen to start over Heaps, then Heaps should transfer to somewhere he can play immediatly.

No, he won't.

The dude is invested in Provo. He has siblings there. His parents got a place there.

He'd be frustrated, but he won't transfer.

[falafel]

First off, buddy, as an ALUF I'd like to think that I am above "instigator" tactics.

Heaps' stated goal (correct me if I'm wrong) is to play in the NFL. He has also chosen to forgo a mission in order to get early playing time at the collegiate level to further progress toward the NFL end goal. If Nelson starts then, Heaps is faced with the possibility of starting as late as his Jr. year.

In todays college quarterback environment starting early and getting PT is paramount. As such my opinion is that he, in his own best interests, should transfer if he doesn't start.

I can't tell if the "buddy" reference is a finger-in-your-chest sort of remark or a genuine expression of friendship. It would be much easier to discern you tone if you'd use the provided emoticons!

Regardless of Heaps stated goal of playing in the NFL (btw, how many college FB players do not have that goal?), what is the evidence that he'd have any better chance at starting as a freshman at any other top quality school? I'm assuming that he wouldn't transfer to any other non-BCS team. He wouldn't be starting at Washington, Tennessee or UCLA. I'm not sure I see how transferring would really boost his chances at being drafted, at least not in terms of early playing time.

[Top Ute]

Oh also, can't he just burn his redshirt year instead of sitting?

Depends on when he enrolls in his new school. I believe NCAA rules mandate a one-year period of ineligibility for transfers. So in the highly unlikely event Heaps went elsewhere, he wouldn't be eligible to play until after he had been at his new school for one calendar year.

[wally]

Do you really believe that? In your short time here I haven't pegged you as an instigator. But saying that a freshman QB should transfer if he's not immediately given the keys seems like an irrational opinion. Especially since he'd likely have to sit out a year if he did transfer, meaning he wouldn't see the field any quicker with his new team.

Oh also, can't he just burn his redshirt year instead of sitting?

[wally]

Do you really believe that? In your short time here I haven't pegged you as an instigator. But saying that a freshman QB should transfer if he's not immediately given the keys seems like an irrational opinion. Especially since he'd likely have to sit out a year if he did transfer, meaning he wouldn't see the field any quicker with his new team.

First off, buddy, as an ALUF I'd like to think that I am above "instigator" tactics.

Heaps' stated goal (correct me if I'm wrong) is to play in the NFL. He has also chosen to forgo a mission in order to get early playing time at the collegiate level to further progress toward the NFL end goal. If Nelson starts then, Heaps is faced with the possibility of starting as late as his Jr. year.

In todays college quarterback environment starting early and getting PT is paramount. As such my opinion is that he, in his own best interests, should transfer if he doesn't start.

[dabrockster]

If he doesn't start?

This is a topic that local radio guys were discussing when I drove to lunch.

I personally think that if Nelson is chosen to start over Heaps, then Heaps should transfer to somewhere he can play immediatly.

Man.. Those radio guys sure have a hard time thinking of things to say, so they come up with that little nugget...

[Rickomatic]

Heaps won't transfer. I think Riley starts against Washington, but after that? Who knows. I don't think even Bronco knows.

[Jacob]

Of course he won't. And there is nowhere he can go to play immediately.