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  • OrangeUte
    Max Hall hates me.
    • Nov 2008
    • 2294

    #1

    USC/Kiffin Disaster Thread

    Because there is so much going on at SC and with Lane Kiffin that is just so "keystone coppish", i thought i would start an official thread...

    Here is the latest, which seems like it is heading the way of litigation.



    Kiffin didn't follow protocol and poached a coach from the Tennessee Titans. Should be interesting to see if that lawsuit actually gets filed. It seems like USC is being led right now by a football coach who has no respect from anyone, and waning (or maybe cautious) support from his AD.
  • Coach McGuirk
    1
    • Nov 2008
    • 12109

    #2
    Kiffen is a lame duck coach, imo. He is going to be given just enough rope to hang himself by the new AD. I give him less than 2 years.

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    • Surfah
      Where's Wallace?
      • Nov 2008
      • 33726

      #3
      I like Kiffin. He's borderline bat shit crazy. But I have this sneaking suspicion that USC won't be able to fire him.
      "Nobody listens to Turtle."
      -Turtle
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      • doctorcoug
        To Win is to Honor Him
        • Jun 2009
        • 2273

        #4
        "SILENCE! I SUE YOU!"

        seriously, "He took my employee and didn't ask my permission. I'm gonna sue."

        Welcome to the real world...

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        • BoylenOver
          Junior Member
          • Nov 2008
          • 9146

          #5
          This is like last offseason all over again. Kiffin steps on everyone's toes, his predicted demise is imminent, then (with the help of his coaching staff) he gets his team to overachieve relative to their talent.

          I think USC is good for 9-3/10-2 this season.
          "I don't know the origin of said bitch booming."-Art Vandelay
          "Hot Lunch posted awhile back on this. He knows more than anyone except for maybe BO."-Seattle Ute

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          • New Mexican Disaster
            Suomalainen
            • Nov 2008
            • 4549

            #6
            Originally posted by BoylenOver View Post
            This is like last offseason all over again. Kiffin steps on everyone's toes, his predicted demise is imminent, then (with the help of his coaching staff) he gets his team to overachieve relative to their talent.

            I think USC is good for 9-3/10-2 this season.
            i think they could be even better than that. The schedule is not bad and the league is down-again.

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            • LA Ute
              Receiver of Memory
              • Nov 2008
              • 19512

              #7
              Lawsuit's been filed, it appears. I am sure Pat Haden is delighted. Kiffin does look like trouble. I wonder how Haden will manage him?
              “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
              ― W.H. Auden


              "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
              -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


              "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
              --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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              • HuskyFreeNorthwest
                Time to camp
                • Nov 2008
                • 26082

                #8
                Originally posted by Coach McGuirk View Post
                Kiffen is a lame duck coach, imo. He is going to be given just enough rope to hang himself by the new AD. I give him less than 2 years.
                I think they'll keep Kiffin through the sanctions, They are going to be in such a scholarship bind for the next 4 years between the penalty and transfers. I read last week that in 2 years they could possibly only have 52 scholarship players, no coach is going to want that job, USC or not.

                If you remember in December of 2000 before Carroll took the job coaches were pulling their name out of consideration for the USC job before they were even mentioned, as if being even lightly associated with the job was career poison. I think they will struggle similarly to find a coach after Kiffin's 3-4 years and will need to find a long shot hire that works like Carroll again.
                Get confident, stupid
                -landpoke

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                • HuskyFreeNorthwest
                  Time to camp
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 26082

                  #9
                  I was listening to Cowherd for a minute while driving to Utah last week and he was going on and on about how USC was clean, how they have removed anything that had any association to scandal, you couldn't find anyone on campus that had even met Reggie Bush.

                  I really wanted to call and ask about the head football coach.
                  Get confident, stupid
                  -landpoke

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                  • TheAzzuri
                    Junior Member
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 454

                    #10
                    Originally posted by doctorcoug View Post
                    "SILENCE! I SUE YOU!"

                    seriously, "He took my employee and didn't ask my permission. I'm gonna sue."

                    Welcome to the real world...
                    Maybe so, but it's stupid to piss people off like that. Particuarly if "people" is one of your more famous and successful alumni who had a good relationship with the school.

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                    • Flystripper
                      Degenerate Gambler
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 14089

                      #11
                      Originally posted by BoylenOver View Post
                      This is like last offseason all over again. Kiffin steps on everyone's toes, his predicted demise is imminent, then (with the help of his coaching staff) he gets his team to overachieve relative to their talent.

                      I think USC is good for 9-3/10-2 this season.
                      pretty much. That team is so deep that with even the couple of player defections they still have the best talent top to bottom in the Pac10.
                      Dyslexics are teople poo...

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                      • fusnik
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 4475

                        #12
                        Amazing how he has made Al Davis look normal.

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                        • DrumNFeather
                          Invisible Swordsman
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 8854

                          #13
                          Prediction...Fisher replaces Kiffin in 3-5 years.
                          "They're good. They've always been good" - David Shaw.

                          Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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                          • LA Ute
                            Receiver of Memory
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 19512

                            #14
                            I forgot to post the link to the news about the filing of the Titans' lawsuit against USC and other Lane Kiffin news.

                            USC is just a compliance problem waiting to happen. So much money, so many wealthy boosters, so many celebrities, all very difficult (impossible) to control.

                            I really think Mike Garrett was a huge part of the problem. Here's what he said in response to the NCAA sanctions last month:


                            I read between the lines and there was nothing but a lot of envy, and they wish they all were Trojans. As I told my staff, I said, 'You know, I feel invigorated by all this stuff ... with the penalty we got today I know we're bigger than life.
                            Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...#ixzz0utv9tbn6

                            Wow. And that is typical Garrett. Pat Haden is going to be a different kind of AD. He is as wealthy as most of the big donors, which means (a) he can speak their language and he's hard for them to push around, and (b) he doesn't need the USC job and doesn't have to fear being fired. So I hope he helps the Trojans out. I am skeptical, though -- the corrupting influences around USC will always be there.
                            “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
                            ― W.H. Auden


                            "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
                            -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


                            "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
                            --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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                            • falafel
                              loves to talk on things
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 37973

                              #15
                              Originally posted by TheAzzuri View Post
                              Maybe so, but it's stupid to piss people off like that. Particuarly if "people" is one of your more famous and successful alumni who had a good relationship with the school.
                              IMO the blame should be on the AD for this one. Shouldn't he be aware of Kiffin's movements, who he's talking to, and whether Kiffin is following the appropriate protocols?
                              Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

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