Question for BYU and Utah fans.

[Bengal Cougar]

BYU fans, assume BYU gets in the big 12. How much would you complain about the BCS if BYU were in a BCS league? Would you care about non BCS teams getting more access? Would you are about seeing a playoff? Would you really care about the unfair nature of the BCS?

Utah fans, same questions to you.

[SeattleUte]

I don't believe I've ever complained about the BCS. My skirts are clean.

[CJF]

I still hate the BCS. The biggest reason I want them in is so the program is stable in the future. Non-BCS programs are going to be squeezed out I fear. I doubt BYU sports gets better being in a BCS conference, but the long term viability of the athletic department would be much better off.

[il Padrino Ute]

The BCS both sucks and blows. It is ruining college football.

[BoylenOver]

A playoff is best for college football. It's attainable, profitable, and the only way to determine a true champion. I want it to happen, and it should happen.

But I'll be honest and say I've always wanted what's best for Utah. As a member of the MWC, Utah has to go undefeated to play in a BCS game, but their slice of the revenue pie is still small, and they'll never have a shot at playing for a title. When we begin PAC-10 play in 2011, we'll receive more revenue, both from the BCS itself and all the trappings that association brings.

And considering the PAC-10 is competing with the MWC in a small sense now, for Utah's sake I hope they don't achieve more access. I would support the current parameters for non-BCS teams to play in a BCS game, and in the years they are deserving receive title consideration.

[HuskyFreeNorthwest]

Since the changes that guaranteed a berth in the BCS with a certain ranking finish the BCS has provided more money and opportunity to the non-AQ schools than was ever there before.

An undefeated Utah in 1988 wasn't going to THE SUGAR BOWL, regardless of ranking. The BCS had some strange quirky things the first few years, but since about 2003 has been really great for college football including the non-AQ schools.

[Jeff Lebowski]

I don't believe I've ever complained about the BCS. My skirts are clean have always been dirty.

Fixed that for you.

[Moliere]

BYU fans, assume BYU gets in the big 12. How much would you complain about the BCS if BYU were in a BCS league? Would you care about non BCS teams getting more access? Would you are about seeing a playoff? Would you really care about the unfair nature of the BCS?

Utah fans, same questions to you.

I wouldn't be complaining about it anymore. I'll be the first to be honest and say that I hate the BCS because it was exclusionary to my favorite team.

People say the BCS has ruined college football, but I disagree. In fact, I think the BCS will ultimately lead to hte best solution (IMO) for postseason play and that is to have a playoff for the conference champions and everyone else that had a good season gets a bowl game. Without the BCS, we would still be in the bowl situation which was certainly not conducive to crowning a national champion.

I was also for superconferences of 16 to 18 teams (and still am) as this would be the easiest way to get to a quasi-playoff scenario.

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[jay santos]

BYU fans, assume BYU gets in the big 12. How much would you complain about the BCS if BYU were in a BCS league? Would you care about non BCS teams getting more access? Would you are about seeing a playoff? Would you really care about the unfair nature of the BCS?

Utah fans, same questions to you.

I wish there was a playoff.

I don't think the BCS is unfair.

What I hate about the BCS the most is the delineation of BCS vs non BCS. A recruit says he wants to play for BCS. A ranking that shows top non BCS teams. It's automatically assumed non BCS are inferior to all 63 BCS programs.

[SeattleUte]

I'm perfectly satisfied with the Utes playing in the Pac 12 for Rose Bowls and BCS championship games. Playoffs don't resonate with me and I've never advocated for them. They can't invite 64 teams or whatever so the system will always seem rigged to the have nots. I'm not even sure a playoff is workable. Anyway, I'm sure for non-AQ schools the world wouldn't look any more fair with a playoff, and the current system has given Utah plenty of opportunity. Had Utah played Alabama in the regular season in 2008 it could have gotten into the BCS championship game. As we've seen, it's very possible for a non-AQ school to get into the BCS championship game. A predicate is playing a competitive schedule.

One reason BYU fans hate the BCS so much is they haven't risen to the top in it like Utah and Boise have. So they play the blame game.

I agree with Boylenover re not wanting to give the MWC any more exposure that we have to; in fact, this may be truer for Utah than any other BCS school, given that it has a pretty successful non-AQ school in its own backyard.

[jay santos]

The BCS both sucks and blows. It is ruining college football.

Says the guy who loves bowl tradition lol. The BCS has done nothing but make the bowl selection process slightly more fair.

[New Mexican Disaster]

The BCs is a garbage solution that is less bad than the previous system.

A playoff of 16 teams is easily workable, desirable and would almost certainly generate more money for all involved. The lack of a playoff drives my enjoyment of the sport down significantly.

I say this recognizing that access to the BCS would actually be easier for BYU in the MWC thanks to the tweaks in the system.

[SeattleUte]

Says the guy who loves bowl tradition lol. The BCS has done nothing but make the bowl selection process slightly more fair.

I agree. Some people are just in the thrall of their biases.

[SeattleUte]

The BCS is still the BS.

You really need always to try to engage your brain before you post. This is an utterly thoughtless post, from a fan of a BCS member institution. Moreover, the BCS has worked for Utah. It has given non-AQ teams a chance to participate in the BCS, and Utah has made the most of this. It is also very possible for a non-AQ tream to participate in the BCS "national championship" game. That non-AQ champions are not automatic qualifiers for BCS bowl invitations is the only distinction, but it doesn't matter. Non-AQ conference champions worthy of a BCS bowl have been getting invited to BCS bowls.

[SeattleUte]

You really need to always try to be less than an arrogant a-hole before you post. The BCS is still a system created of, by and for the BCS. The "haves" have made a few concessions which have allowed a few non-AQ teams to get into BCS bowls, but those teams are still excluded from championship contention. It may be very possible for a non-AQ team to participate in the MNC game in theory, but in practice it is not. At the very least, I will believe it when I see it.

lol Utah is a BCS team, moron. Why are you against s system creted for Utah's beneft?

In practice it is not possible for a non-AQ team to play in the last BCS game? You're demonstrably wrong about that. All non-AQ teams are included in the computer polls and considered as eligible. TCU very nearly made it last year. If a non-AQ team plays the right kind of schedule and goes undefeated it absolutely is possible in practice. THe same is true for a BCS team. A BCS team usually needs to go undeafeated unless there just aren't any undefeated teams.