Boise to MWC

[beefytee]

Boise is a football school and has done well ever since their days as BJC. They will continue to do well. If the field in Provo was blue 99% of the fans would think what a clever marketing idea and believe God made them smart enough to think of the idea before anybody else did. The basketball program sucks but they have a great place to play and being in the MWC should really help them.

I don't think 99% of BYU fans liked the HAKA or the 4th quarter Cosmo videos. Blue turf falls into that category.

[Commando]

Boise is a football school and has done well ever since their days as BJC. They will continue to do well. If the field in Provo was blue 99% of the fans would think what a clever marketing idea and believe God made them smart enough to think of the idea before anybody else did. The basketball program sucks but they have a great place to play and being in the MWC should really help them.

I can't wait to see the Cougs whip their ass year in and year out in b-ball. Football-- I just need a W. The game that broke the Crowton's back still haunts me.

[jay santos]

That blue turf has to go. I'm not a fan of Boise State. But timing is everything and they have a lot to offer right now. In the long run I am less confident in their abilities. What do they offer when they go through an "off" period when they aren't that good in football? Does the university offer anything else of benefit? I know they have a good wrestling program but I don't see how that helps us much. No denying they have done an amazing job with their football program and Coach Peterson is not only a great coach, but a class act. I'm just a little nervous about what they have to offer.

Their upside long term is on par with BYU and Utah. Their down side is no worse than a mid level MWC team.

[BlueHair]

I can't wait to see the Cougs whip their ass year in and year out in b-ball. Football-- I just need a W. The game that broke the Crowton's back still haunts me.

Coach Hawkins looked like he was going to cry before the fg attempt.

[USUC]

Their upside long term is on par with BYU and Utah. Their down side is no worse than a mid level MWC team.

Its amazing what a difference a couple of off years can make. Look at Michigan, Wassu, ASU. Peterson seems to be a man of his word and has said he is looking to stay at Boise. If thats the case they will be good for a while longer. They have dumped a lot of resources into the football program. I wonder if they will start with the others as well. I do think Boise loses some of their advantages by going to the MWC. The talent will be better in the MWC, they will have to play more than two quality teams each season, and they will develop rivalries (immediate rivalries with Utah, TCU, and BYU) where a lot more is at stake. This will happen and I won't complain much about it. But unless they make leaps and bounds in other areas, I just don't know their long term viability. Geeze, I kind of sound like the PAC-10 now don't I?

[Flystripper]

. But unless they make leaps and bounds in other areas, I just don't know their long term viability. Geeze, I kind of sound like the PAC-10 now don't I?

What leaps and bounds do they have to make? Boise would have finished in the top half of the MWC for more than 10 years and this was even before Petersen. Personally, I don't see any leaps that they would have to make. They have already jumped and on par with the top of the league in terms of football.

[USUC]

What leaps and bounds do they have to make? Boise would have finished in the top half of the MWC for more than 10 years and this was even before Petersen. Personally, I don't see any leaps that they would have to make. They have already jumped and on par with the top of the league in terms of football.

In terms of football yes they are on par or better than the league now. But in terms of other sports they need to make leaps and bounds. I see your point though, football is the only thing that matters right now.

[USUC]

What leaps and bounds do they have to make? Boise would have finished in the top half of the MWC for more than 10 years and this was even before Petersen. Personally, I don't see any leaps that they would have to make. They have already jumped and on par with the top of the league in terms of football.

I don't think 99% of BYU fans liked the HAKA or the 4th quarter Cosmo videos. Blue turf falls into that category.

As much as I hated the HAKA, I think the blue turf is worse. The HAKA was pregame and is quickly overshadowed by the game itself. The blue turf is the focal point the entire game. Although I have no facts to back this up, but I would wager that the blue turf is the number one thing people think of when they hear Boise State. Not their two BCS bowl appearances. It is gimmicky at an extreme level. I can see its purpose to get exposure for a fledgling program, but they have arrived. They play big-boy football now. Start acting like it.

[Color Me Badd Fan]

Boise's inclusion would make the MWC a de facto BCS conference if it weren't for the agreement to share the revenue with all the other non-BCS conferences. Between Boise, Utah, TCU and BYU, it would be difficult for any other non-BCS team to make a BCS bowl. Even a 1-loss MWC team would probably make it ahead of an undefeated WAC or C-USA team.

Boise's inclusion still doesn't solve the major problem the MWC has -- too many shitty teams at the bottom. Air Force is a decent enough middle of the road team, but the MWC needs another program to get up to Air Force's level. Air Force almost never beats the big 3 in the conference, but consistently beats the rest and does reasonably well outside the conference. CSU could get to this position in the next few years. Four great teams, two middle of the road and four shitty teams is the ideal situation. Right now it's three great teams, one middle of the road and five shitty teams.

[Jarid in Cedar]

I want to see BSU to the MWC just to watch CB and UFN melt down into unrecognizable particles.

[USUC]

Boise's inclusion would make the MWC a de facto BCS conference if it weren't for the agreement to share the revenue with all the other non-BCS conferences. Between Boise, Utah, TCU and BYU, it would be difficult for any other non-BCS team to make a BCS bowl. Even a 1-loss MWC team would probably make it ahead of an undefeated WAC or C-USA team.

Boise's inclusion still doesn't solve the major problem the MWC has -- too many shitty teams at the bottom. Air Force is a decent enough middle of the road team, but the MWC needs another program to get up to Air Force's level. Air Force almost never beats the big 3 in the conference, but consistently beats the rest and does reasonably well outside the conference. CSU could get to this position in the next few years. Four great teams, two middle of the road and four shitty teams is the ideal situation. Right now it's three great teams, one middle of the road and five shitty teams.

I agree. But unless all the good teams go to whats left of the Big 12, the original teams in the conference stay. From what I understand it is quite a difficult process to kick a team out. Thats why we need to add another couple of teams to beef up the middle: Fresno State, Nevada, and or Houston. I don't think staying at a 10 team conference in this new environment is smart.

[Color Me Badd Fan]

I agree. But unless all the good teams go to whats left of the Big 12, the original teams in the conference stay. From what I understand it is quite a difficult process to kick a team out. Thats why we need to add another couple of teams to beef up the middle: Fresno State, Nevada, and or Houston. I don't think staying at a 10 team conference in this new environment is smart.

The Pac 10 is looking to expand because its about to negotiate a new TV contract. The Big 10 is looking to expand because it has its own TV network. You don't hear much talk about the SEC or Big 12 expanding. The SEC already has a new, fat contract and Texas controls the Big 12 and is happy with its situation with the Big 12 (but looks like it is willing to listen to other offers).

I don't see what advantage there is to bringing in the three schools you mentioned. Nevada and Fresno State's markets and quality of their programs don't justify splitting the MWC pie into more parts. The reason why the MWC should hold off on those programs is the same reason why the Pac 10 is apparently looking past the Utah+Colorado option. Houston is Texas's version of San Jose State only with a slightly better football program (still, no one cares). The quality of Boise's program is definitely something desirable and could launch the MWC into automatic qualifier status.

[jay santos]

As much as I hated the HAKA, I think the blue turf is worse. The HAKA was pregame and is quickly overshadowed by the game itself. The blue turf is the focal point the entire game. Although I have no facts to back this up, but I would wager that the blue turf is the number one thing people think of when they hear Boise State. Not their two BCS bowl appearances. It is gimmicky at an extreme level. I can see its purpose to get exposure for a fledgling program, but they have arrived. They play big-boy football now. Start acting like it.

The blue field's fine. It's their thing. Let them have it. When I hear people complain about it, it always makes me think jealousy is at the root.

[USUC]

The blue field's fine. It's their thing. Let them have it. When I hear people complain about it, it always makes me think jealousy is at the root.

Maybe I'm just too neurotic and easily annoyed by it. I have a hard time watching it on TV, it messes with my eyes. Its similar to the reaction I have when watching "Freinds." It may be their thing but that doesn't mean its not a gimmick.

[FN Phat]

As much as I hated the HAKA, I think the blue turf is worse. The HAKA was pregame and is quickly overshadowed by the game itself. The blue turf is the focal point the entire game. Although I have no facts to back this up, but I would wager that the blue turf is the number one thing people think of when they hear Boise State. Not their two BCS bowl appearances. It is gimmicky at an extreme level. I can see its purpose to get exposure for a fledgling program, but they have arrived. They play big-boy football now. Start acting like it.

This is the type of response that makes me love the SMURF TURF!