Will North Carolina be a contender next year?

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  • Hot Lunch
    Out of Office
    • Nov 2008
    • 7842

    #1

    Will North Carolina be a contender next year?

    I am sure that there are on many on this board that could care less but I just looked at Mel Kiper's top 5 for each position in next years draft and he has 5 defensive players from UNC on there. Of those five, four of them are rated #1 for there position. That is some pretty dang good talent on defense. I am not sure what they have on O but they have been putting out some talent recently on that side of the ball as well.

    [ame="http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft10/insider/news/story?id=5164239"]2011 NFL draft - Mel Kiper Jr.: Best available players at every position as of May 5, 2010 - ESPN[/ame]

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    Matt Reynolds is ranked and the 3rd best OT FYI.
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  • Jarid in Cedar
    CS Institutional Memory
    • Jun 2009
    • 13234

    #2
    there are some rumblings that they should win the ACC. I will believe it when I see their offense be a tad more prolific. Their D will be stellar though.
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    • BoylenOver
      Junior Member
      • Nov 2008
      • 9146

      #3
      For the entirety of my college football awareness, UNC has been a mediocre/underachieving program. Now, there's no question Butch Davis has brought in a ton of talent, but they're one of those schools that have to prove themselves to be legit before I consider them good for more than 9 wins.

      To be sure, they have 11 upperclassmen starting on defense, including 7 seniors, and they have T.J. Yates returning as a 3rd-year starter at QB. That's a stiff test to start the season against LSU, though.
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      • Hot Lunch
        Out of Office
        • Nov 2008
        • 7842

        #4
        Originally posted by BoylenOver View Post
        For the entirety of my college football awareness, UNC has been a mediocre/underachieving program. Now, there's no question Butch Davis has brought in a ton of talent, but they're one of those schools that have to prove themselves to be legit before I consider them good for more than 9 wins.

        To be sure, they have 11 upperclassmen starting on defense, including 7 seniors, and they have T.J. Yates returning as a 3rd-year starter at QB. That's a stiff test to start the season against LSU, though.
        I agree with your points in them being underachievers and LSU will be a very good test for them to start the season. Because of the talent that they have, they will be a fun team to watch. Butch Davis has proven he can win with talent. I guess this is the year he needs to prove it with UNC.
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        • Coach McGuirk
          1
          • Nov 2008
          • 12109

          #5
          I have always had a soft spot for UNC from when Mack Brown was there. I like the intensity that a Butch Davis team plays with, but the UNC versions always seem to shoot themselves in the foot.

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          • Indy Coug
            Heartless Bastard
            • Dec 2008
            • 18747

            #6
            North Carolina was 108th in total offense and 98th in passing efficiency. Their starting QB was a JR and had a pass efficiency of 115.

            They need that kind of defense just to keep their heads above water.
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            • cougjunkie
              *Banned*
              • Nov 2008
              • 23223

              #7
              Marvin Austin is a complete stud, I followed him in highschool and everyone was shocked he went to UNC.

              Offensively they really struggle, Greg Little is a serious talent and they have not found a way to use him effectively he is a top 5 college receiver but they have no one to get him the ball so they put him at running back last year.
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              • COUGZ
                Junior Member
                • Nov 2008
                • 104

                #8
                Originally posted by Hot Lunch View Post
                I am sure that there are on many on this board that could care less but I just looked at Mel Kiper's top 5 for each position in next years draft and he has 5 defensive players from UNC on there. Of those five, four of them are rated #1 for there position. That is some pretty dang good talent on defense. I am not sure what they have on O but they have been putting out some talent recently on that side of the ball as well.

                2011 NFL draft - Mel Kiper Jr.: Best available players at every position as of May 5, 2010 - ESPN

                You need to be an insider to see the article.

                Matt Reynolds is ranked and the 3rd best OT FYI.


                As long as they continue to pretend that Butch Davis will get them there...they won't win anything. UNC isn't a football school.
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                • BoylenOver
                  Junior Member
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 9146

                  #9
                  Money trail ties former UNC coach John Blake to NFL agent Gary Wichard, as far back as 2007.

                  Rivals is the best resource for recruiting and high school sports. Find all of your favorite team's information or browse our advanced player database.


                  The Tar Heels football program is in deep shit.
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                  • New Mexican Disaster
                    Suomalainen
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 4549

                    #10
                    Originally posted by BoylenOver View Post
                    Money trail ties former UNC coach John Blake to NFL agent Gary Wichard, as far back as 2007.

                    Rivals is the best resource for recruiting and high school sports. Find all of your favorite team's information or browse our advanced player database.


                    The Tar Heels football program is in deep shit.
                    This sucks. I was hoping they could become a power program down there. I thought their recruiting could hurt Tennessee and Georgia.

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                    • statman
                      Rabblerouser
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 2799

                      #11
                      Originally posted by BoylenOver View Post
                      Money trail ties former UNC coach John Blake to NFL agent Gary Wichard, as far back as 2007.

                      Rivals is the best resource for recruiting and high school sports. Find all of your favorite team's information or browse our advanced player database.


                      The Tar Heels football program is in deep shit.
                      Can you show a bigger "lack of institutional control" than coaches taking kickbacks from agents?

                      They might get the death penalty...

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                      • pellegrino
                        miserere me
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 12100

                        #12
                        Originally posted by statman View Post
                        Can you show a bigger "lack of institutional control" than coaches taking kickbacks from agents?

                        They might get the death penalty...
                        there are some who would argue that the lack of institutional control was the inability to successfully cover it up.

                        RIP Butch Davis and the Tarheel football team. It was fun to dream big, if even only for a little while.
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                        • Moliere
                          One man.....one pie
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 27821

                          #13
                          Originally posted by New Mexican Disaster View Post
                          This sucks. I was hoping they could become a power program down there. I thought their recruiting could hurt Tennessee and Georgia.
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                          • Coach McGuirk
                            1
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 12109

                            #14
                            I think we have a program that will not be playing football in the near future. Will Butch Davis ever get another college job?

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                            • New Mexican Disaster
                              Suomalainen
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 4549

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Eddie Jones View Post
                              I am not sure why that is funny. Tennessee relies on recruiting from other southern states especially Georgia, Florida, South Carolina and some Virginia, as well as national recruits (when things are going well). Having another school that can bring in talent from the area increased competition in the Vols key areas.

                              The Volunteer state does not produce enough talent to stock the program especially since Memphis has traditionally been very good Bama, Ole Miss territory.

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