What happened to all of Utahs sub 4.4 guys?

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  • cougjunkie
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    • Nov 2008
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    #1

    What happened to all of Utahs sub 4.4 guys?

    I remember hearing about how RJ Stanford was a 4.2 guy, David Reed 4.4, Rojo 4.4, etc. Yet at Utahs pro day Stanford ran the fastest at 4.45, Reed ran 4.58 and Rojo ran 4.6.
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  • il Padrino Ute
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    • Nov 2008
    • 19161

    #2
    Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
    I remember hearing about how RJ Stanford was a 4.2 guy, David Reed 4.4, Rojo 4.4, etc. Yet at Utahs pro day Stanford ran the fastest at 4.45, Reed ran 4.58 and Rojo ran 4.6.
    Yawn.
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    • Surfah
      Where's Wallace?
      • Nov 2008
      • 33726

      #3
      How did Wynn do? Oh he's only a freshman? Dammit.
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      • cougjunkie
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        • Nov 2008
        • 23223

        #4
        Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View Post
        Yawn.
        I am serious, this goes out to BYU fans too we talk about how Utah has so much more speed than BYU and that BYU can never recruit that type of speed, but the numbers do not lie. Utah is average at best in the speed department. Reed, Johnson and Sylvester were very productive college players but they are not the blazing fast athletes they were made out to be.
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        • Indy Coug
          Heartless Bastard
          • Dec 2008
          • 18747

          #5
          Utah's speed is a classic example of enough people making baseless claims that the masses eventually accept them as fact.
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          • Surfah
            Where's Wallace?
            • Nov 2008
            • 33726

            #6
            Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
            I am serious, this goes out to BYU fans too we talk about how Utah has so much more speed than BYU and that BYU can never recruit that type of speed, but the numbers do not lie. Utah is average at best in the speed department. Reed, Johnson and Sylvester were very productive college players but they are not the blazing fast athletes they were made out to be.
            When is TCU's pro day? They're young so they have a ton of talent left, but I'd still be interested in the numbers for their guys that participate.
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            • Jarid in Cedar
              CS Institutional Memory
              • Jun 2009
              • 13234

              #7
              Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
              I remember hearing about how RJ Stanford was a 4.2 guy, David Reed 4.4, Rojo 4.4, etc. Yet at Utahs pro day Stanford ran the fastest at 4.45, Reed ran 4.58 and Rojo ran 4.6.
              They took good lessons from Urban Meyer.
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              • cougjunkie
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                • Nov 2008
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                #8
                Originally posted by Surfah View Post
                When is TCU's pro day? They're young so they have a ton of talent left, but I'd still be interested in the numbers for their guys that participate.
                Jerry Hughes ran a 4.59 at the combine which is disgusting for a D-end.
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                • Indy Coug
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                  • Dec 2008
                  • 18747

                  #9
                  Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
                  Jerry Hughes ran a 4.59 at the combine which is disgusting for a D-end.
                  Sounds like he'll be an OLB in the NFL, in which case his speed is merely above-average.
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                  • il Padrino Ute
                    Junior Member
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 19161

                    #10
                    Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
                    I am serious, this goes out to BYU fans too we talk about how Utah has so much more speed than BYU and that BYU can never recruit that type of speed, but the numbers do not lie. Utah is average at best in the speed department. Reed, Johnson and Sylvester were very productive college players but they are not the blazing fast athletes they were made out to be.
                    Fair enough.

                    You'll have to forgive me for my response as it was based on your usual posts about the U.
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                    • Jarid in Cedar
                      CS Institutional Memory
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 13234

                      #11
                      Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
                      Jerry Hughes ran a 4.59 at the combine which is disgusting for a D-end.
                      Washington ran in the same neighborhood at the combine as well. I want to say 4.62 but I need to look it up to be sure.
                      "The first thing I learned upon becoming a head coach after fifteen years as an assistant was the enormous difference between making a suggestion and making a decision."

                      "They talk about the economy this year. Hey, my hairline is in recession, my waistline is in inflation. Altogether, I'm in a depression."

                      "I like to bike. I could beat Lance Armstrong, only because he couldn't pass me if he was behind me."

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                      • Goatnapper'96
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                        • Nov 2008
                        • 10909

                        #12
                        Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
                        I am serious, this goes out to BYU fans too we talk about how Utah has so much more speed than BYU and that BYU can never recruit that type of speed, but the numbers do not lie. Utah is average at best in the speed department. Reed, Johnson and Sylvester were very productive college players but they are not the blazing fast athletes they were made out to be.
                        Utah was faster than BYU. BYU's corners and safeties are all a legitimate .1-.2 slower than what the Utah dbs ran at their pro day. That is a step to two steps difference. I don't think the speed difference was entirely overwhelming, obviously as I think BYU beat Utah, but I thought that Utah was clearly the faster team.

                        I also have long felt that there are different types of speed than just the ability to run from point a to point b quickly. Coaching, experience and for defenders the ability to recognize plays and anticipate where you need to be are all keys to playing the game fast. That is, IMO, why Mendenhall plays more experienced players over younger ones that we think are "faster." A good example of this was the last #14 that played SS at BYU. The kid was a legitimate 4.7 40 but he was very well coached, came from Texas I believe, and was smart and experienced. He was always in the right place at the right time. Hence, he helped make BYU look a lot faster than perhaps they really were. It did help that he also played with a set of LBers that were legitimately fast in both mind and body.
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                        • Indy Coug
                          Heartless Bastard
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 18747

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
                          Utah was faster than BYU. BYU's corners and safeties are all a legitimate .1-.2 slower than what the Utah dbs ran at their pro day. That is a step to two steps difference. I don't think the speed difference was entirely overwhelming, obviously as I think BYU beat Utah, but I thought that Utah was clearly the faster team.

                          I also have long felt that there are different types of speed than just the ability to run from point a to point b quickly. Coaching, experience and for defenders the ability to recognize plays and anticipate where you need to be are all keys to playing the game fast. That is, IMO, why Mendenhall plays more experienced players over younger ones that we think are "faster." A good example of this was the last #14 that played SS at BYU. The kid was a legitimate 4.7 40 but he was very well coached, came from Texas I believe, and was smart and experienced. He was always in the right place at the right time. Hence, he helped make BYU look a lot faster than perhaps they really were. It did help that he also played with a set of LBers that were legitimately fast in both mind and body.
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                          • SeattleUte
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                            • Nov 2008
                            • 20837

                            #14
                            Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View Post
                            Yawn.
                            Yes, a thousand times yawn.
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                            • WashingtonCoug
                              Monsters like me
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 1489

                              #15
                              The shocking thing to me is that they've been training to be the fastest they've ever been in their lives for the past couple of months.
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