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  • byu71
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 22070

    #1

    Question on some recruits

    to some of you who follow this more closely. I note a couple of recruits that signed appear not to have been recruited by anyone else. Once a kid has signed with BYU, they are guys I am fully behind and I personally won't rip on them. These kids may turn out to be Chad Lewis or Dennis Pitta.

    My question though as far as overall recruiting goes. Are these kids ones who sign so early no one else recruits them. Are they recruited for character as much as talent. Can our coaches just see things no one else sees. When we talk about not having scholarships, I just wonder what is the key in signing recruits not recruited by anyone else.
  • cougjunkie
    *Banned*
    • Nov 2008
    • 23223

    #2
    All situations are different. But in BYUs case most of their kids have committed before even their senior seasons. Which causes other schools to lay off.

    Also it could be like you said that BYU sees something others do not.
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    • Indy Coug
      Heartless Bastard
      • Dec 2008
      • 18747

      #3
      Originally posted by byu71 View Post
      to some of you who follow this more closely. I note a couple of recruits that signed appear not to have been recruited by anyone else. Once a kid has signed with BYU, they are guys I am fully behind and I personally won't rip on them. These kids may turn out to be Chad Lewis or Dennis Pitta.

      My question though as far as overall recruiting goes. Are these kids ones who sign so early no one else recruits them. Are they recruited for character as much as talent. Can our coaches just see things no one else sees. When we talk about not having scholarships, I just wonder what is the key in signing recruits not recruited by anyone else.
      Can you name the players you are wondering about? Depending on who the recruit is, there are different reasons why the offer list is short.
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      • byu71
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2008
        • 22070

        #4
        Originally posted by Indy Coug View Post
        Can you name the players you are wondering about? Depending on who the recruit is, there are different reasons why the offer list is short.
        Hanneman, Brown, Kautai. I didn't name them because I didn't want to appear to be knocking anyone and I am not. It is a question out of ignorance of the situation. I am happy to have these kids and am just wondering.

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        • cougjunkie
          *Banned*
          • Nov 2008
          • 23223

          #5
          Originally posted by byu71 View Post
          Hanneman, Brown, Kautai. I didn't name them because I didn't want to appear to be knocking anyone and I am not. It is a question out of ignorance of the situation. I am happy to have these kids and am just wondering.
          Brown has been committed to BYU for over a year now, and pretty much ended his recruitment at that point.

          Kautai and Hanneman are both sign and send guys and I think they are a bit of projects that were potentially class fillers.
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          • DU Ute
            RIP CUF
            • Dec 2008
            • 7393

            #6
            Originally posted by byu71 View Post
            to some of you who follow this more closely. I note a couple of recruits that signed appear not to have been recruited by anyone else. Once a kid has signed with BYU, they are guys I am fully behind and I personally won't rip on them. These kids may turn out to be Chad Lewis or Dennis Pitta.

            My question though as far as overall recruiting goes. Are these kids ones who sign so early no one else recruits them. Are they recruited for character as much as talent. Can our coaches just see things no one else sees. When we talk about not having scholarships, I just wonder what is the key in signing recruits not recruited by anyone else.
            I'll tell you why. It's because no one wants your stupid recruits!

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            • byu71
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2008
              • 22070

              #7
              Originally posted by DU Ute View Post
              I'll tell you why. It's because no one wants your stupid recruits!

              The February Championship will be ours!
              OH YEA. Indy, Junkie. Let this guy know why he is full of crap.

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              • Indy Coug
                Heartless Bastard
                • Dec 2008
                • 18747

                #8
                Originally posted by byu71 View Post
                OH YEA. Indy, Junkie. Let this guy know why he is full of crap.
                You have to hand it to DU Ute. Originality is definitely his strong suit.
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                • jay santos
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 13652

                  #9
                  Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
                  Brown has been committed to BYU for over a year now, and pretty much ended his recruitment at that point.

                  Kautai and Hanneman are both sign and send guys and I think they are a bit of projects that were potentially class fillers.
                  Indy, I didn't have the names before, but here is an example of the sign and send "buy on credit" mentality.

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                  • byu71
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 22070

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Indy Coug View Post
                    You have to hand it to DU Ute. Originality is definitely his strong suit.
                    To tell you the truth, his subtle shot at our fans with the comment about the February championship was pretty dang good. While not original, I think he patterned it after someone I greatly admire.

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                    • Indy Coug
                      Heartless Bastard
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 18747

                      #11
                      Originally posted by jay santos View Post
                      Indy, I didn't have the names before, but here is an example of the sign and send "buy on credit" mentality.
                      So who did Kautai and Hanneman prevent BYU from signing?
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                      • MarkGrace
                        Grooveshark dick tease
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 31546

                        #12
                        Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
                        Brown has been committed to BYU for over a year now, and pretty much ended his recruitment at that point.

                        Kautai and Hanneman are both sign and send guys and I think they are a bit of projects that were potentially class fillers.
                        Why would we need class filler in a year with so many commits?

                        And what do you mean by sign and send? Send to a JC? Doesn't that only happen if they don't have the grades?
                        So Russell...what do you love about music? To begin with, everything.

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                        • SCcoug
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 7625

                          #13
                          Originally posted by MarkGrace View Post
                          Why would we need class filler in a year with so many commits?

                          And what do you mean by sign and send? Send to a JC? Doesn't that only happen if they don't have the grades?
                          Sign and they go on a mission.

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                          • jay santos
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 13652

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Indy Coug View Post
                            So who did Kautai and Hanneman prevent BYU from signing?
                            I guess I'm not making my point very effectively. In two years when Kautai and Kanneman come off missions, there will be two kids we won't be able to sign. This is called buying recruits on credit.

                            The two kids we weren't able to sign this year is due to two kids coming off missions that were sign and sends from two years ago. I'd just like us to have the same criteria for sign and sends as we do for the kids that get schollies immediately.

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                            • MarkGrace
                              Grooveshark dick tease
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 31546

                              #15
                              Originally posted by SCcoug View Post
                              Sign and they go on a mission.
                              Gotcha. Thanks.

                              I'm familiar with the term "draft and follow," but "sign and send" is a new one for me.
                              So Russell...what do you love about music? To begin with, everything.

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