The BCS is great.

[creekster]

I appreciate what you're saying but I think you're going to be surprised. How amazing articles like this are still appearing five days later, and in places like Texas!

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...n/6197818.html

These articles are coming from the actual voters or their colleagues. BTW, FWIW, 3D officially threw in the towel yesterday on USC ranked higher than Utah.

It's called "trying to sell newspapers" and is not likely to influence the dynamics Flystripper describes. I would put Utah number one also. I think they deserve it (of course I firmly believe BYU deserved its natl. championship as well). I doubt it will happen, however.

[TripletDaddy]

I appreciate what you're saying but I think you're going to be surprised. How amazing articles like this are still appearing five days later, and in places like Texas!

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...n/6197818.html

These articles are coming from the actual voters or their colleagues. BTW, FWIW, 3D officially threw in the towel yesterday on USC ranked higher than Utah.

no, for SC to get the split AP title with the BCS.

Not for Utah to be ranked higher than SC. I still think that is definitely possible. Then again, unless SC wins the title, I don't really care if SC finishes 4th and Utah 2nd. What does it matter? Nobody is denying that Utah has a great team. For SC, the season fell short of expectations. I think you said it best when you said that for Utah, this season was the greatest thing the school has ever accomplished. I agree with your assessment.

[SeattleUte]

It's called "trying to sell newspapers" and is not likely to influence the dynamics Flystripper describes. I would put Utah number one also. I think they deserve it (of course I firmly believe BYU deserved its natl. championship as well). I doubt it will happen, however.

I predict no. 2, for reasons I stated.

[TripletDaddy]

It's called "trying to sell newspapers" and is not likely to influence the dynamics Flystripper describes. I would put Utah number one also. I think they deserve it (of course I firmly believe BYU deserved its natl. championship as well). I doubt it will happen, however.

For those that say that they would put Utah at #1......how do you address the fact that Florida already is #1 and, if it wins its game, you are saying that you would actually drop Florida and replace it with the #7 team? It makes no sense. That is a horrible precedent to set.....go into your bowl game ranked #1, win your bowl game against the #2 team, finish the season ranked #2.

[creekster]

For those that say that they would put Utah at #1......how do you address the fact that Florida already is #1 and, if it wins its game, you are saying that you would actually drop Florida and replace it with the #7 team? It makes no sense. That is a horrible precedent to set.....go into your bowl game ranked #1, win your bowl game against the #2 team, finish the season ranked #2.

DIfferent issue. I think Utah should have been ranked higher going in. They are not. If I had a vote, however, I would vote them as number one.

[SeattleUte]

For those that say that they would put Utah at #1......how do you address the fact that Florida already is #1 and, if it wins its game, you are saying that you would actually drop Florida and replace it with the #7 team? It makes no sense. That is a horrible precedent to set.....go into your bowl game ranked #1, win your bowl game against the #2 team, finish the season ranked #2.

You can't handle the truth. Even (those tools) ESPN can.

http://espn.go.com/

What kind of a "horrible precedent?" LOL. This is exactly the subversion the press is after. And I always thought you were such a brilliant insight into pop culture.

[TripletDaddy]

DIfferent issue. I think Utah should have been ranked higher going in. They are not. If I had a vote, however, I would vote them as number one.

I am confused by your first couple of setences and how they relate to the final one. Are you saying that even though Utah was ranked 7 going in and Florida was 1, you would rank Utah 1 and drop Florida...even if Florida wins its bowl game?

[Flystripper]

For those that say that they would put Utah at #1......how do you address the fact that Florida already is #1 and, if it wins its game, you are saying that you would actually drop Florida and replace it with the #7 team? It makes no sense. That is a horrible precedent to set.....go into your bowl game ranked #1, win your bowl game against the #2 team, finish the season ranked #2.

If Utah is more impressive than every team in front of them they should jump from number 7 to number 1. Why are you worried about precedent? Voters should vote for who they believe is best. If after all the games the voters believe that Utah is best, then Utah should jump from number 7 to number 1. It is as simple as that.

[TripletDaddy]

You can't handle the truth. Even (those tools) ESPN can.

http://espn.go.com/

What kind of a "horrible precedent?" LOL. This is exactly the subversion the press is after. And I always thought you were such a brilliant insight into pop culture.

Can you name another time the #1 football team went to the championship game (or its bowl game), won that game, and then lost the championship?

I can't think of any such example in any sport.

[SeattleUte]

Can you name another time the #1 football team went to the championship game (or its bowl game), won that game, and then lost the championship?

I can't think of any such example in any sport.

This sounds shrill; and it's unreasoned. This is great. I'm seeing the message board equivalent of Nick Saban stomping around and throwing towels.

[TripletDaddy]

If Utah is more impressive than every team in front of them they should jump from number 7 to number 1. Why are you worried about precedent? Voters should vote for who they believe is best. If after all the games the voters believe that Utah is best, then Utah should jump from number 7 to number 1. It is as simple as that.

Then what is the point of being the top ranked team in the country? Why release rankings at all until the final game has been played?

If you earn your way to the #1 ranking during the season and defend it in the post-season against the #2 ranked team, why would that possibly be taken away by the same voters that had you ranked as #1 to begin with? That is a horrible precendent. At least I think so.

[TripletDaddy]

This sounds shrill; and it's unreasoned. This is great. I'm seeing the message board equivalent of Nick Saban stomping around and throwing towels.

So, no you cannot provide even a single example?

[SeattleUte]

So, no you cannot provide even a single example?

There is no other sport like college football where the two contestants in the "championship game" are picked like supreme court justices. Has there never before been a split between the AP and BCS?

[creekster]

This sounds shrill; and it's unreasoned. This is great. I'm seeing the message board equivalent of Nick Saban stomping around and throwing towels.

You should cehck with Finderson to see if you used shrillcorrectly.

[TripletDaddy]

There is no other sport like college football where the two contestants in the "championship game" are picked like supreme court justices. Has there never before been a split between the AP and BCS?

Yes there has, as I am sure you know.

You are being evasive, which I like because it goes to your credibility.

Nobody here is arguing about the impossiblity of a split.

The issue at hand....the AP votes you #1 going into your final bowl game. You are playing against the AP #2. You win that bowl game. Why would you drop in ranking?

You cannot provide any logical answer nor any examples of prior similar doings.

That is my only point here...that what you are suggesting makes no sense and violates all prior precedent. Read your own sig line to see where I stand on whether the Utes deserve the nod.