Big 10 expansion talk heating up

[Babs]

was it the Big 8 or the SWAC that formed in 1907?

Big 6.
Technically, the SWC dissolved in 1995, with four teams being extended invitations to join the Big 8. Originally the SWC had hoped for a full merger between the conferences, but the Big 8 rejected the proposal.

[BoylenOver]

Someone linked this article on twitter:

http://www.mlive.com/sports/grand-ra...ld_lead_t.html

[SteelBlue]

Someone linked this article on twitter:

http://www.mlive.com/sports/grand-ra...ld_lead_t.html

I cannot foresee any situation, ever, in which the Pac-10 adds Boise St.

[SeattleUte]

So cute. SU has an admirer.

http://www.cougarboard.com/noframes/...tml?id=5095142

Is Tokolosh someone on this board?

Research money more important than football money in a conference decision. lol

SU convincing someone of this argument. LOL

Why do you think, with BYU's monstrous fan base and respectable football tradition, the Pac 10 wants nothing to do with it? .

You have to admit that on the sports merits BYU ought to be attractive to the Pqc 10

[beefytee]

Big 6.
Technically, the SWC dissolved in 1995, with four teams being extended invitations to join the Big 8. Originally the SWC had hoped for a full merger between the conferences, but the Big 8 rejected the proposal.

When you say full merger, do you mean all the teams from the old SWC or do you mean accepting the 4 teams on equal footing?

Because from what I can see, the Big 8 was technically dissolved and a new conference was created. The 4 SWC teams did not join the Big 8.

The only thing that they inherited from the old Big 8 was the eight teams and a similar name.

[Tokolosh]

Well...

So cute. SU has an admirer.

Is Tokolosh someone on this board?

Ya, he is on this board. But it would be tough to figure out which one he is.

This isn't a case of being a fan of SU, though it could be argued I admire the work of at least one of his brothers. I have a soft spot for international business.

As to the discussion, the man is right. The money trail tells the story.

[BoylenOver]

Ya, he is on this board. But it would be tough to figure out which one he is.

This isn't a case of being a fan of SU, though it could be argued I admire the work of at least one of his brothers. I have a soft spot for international business.

As to the discussion, the man is right. The money trail tells the story.

It's about time you joined this board, anyway.

[Tokolosh]

Agreed...

It's about time you joined this board, anyway.

I came looking for the funny that left Utefans a couple of years ago and to be able to heckle my BYU brethren with the occasional damn and hell for emphasis.

[Babs]

I'm sure you know more than me on this, but from what I've found this just isn't true.

To me it totally looks like a merger. The only thing they got from the Big 8 is the 8 teams and a similar name.

The Big 8 had the Orange Bowl before the merger. When the Bowl Alliance came (partly because of the creation of the Big 12) there was no longer a tie-in to the Orange Bowl.

The new Big 12 conference used the old SWC commissioner (Steve Hatchell) as the new Big 12 commissioner. The headquarters were put up in Irvine, Texas (Not where the old Big 8 headquarters were).

The Cotton Bowl tie-in comes from the SWC.

I don't see any other bowl tie-ins that carried over from the Big 8.

So exactly how was it an acquisition and not a merger?

I'm just telling you how it is. It was technically an expansion. It's just a historical fact.

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"4 SWC teams get Big 8 bids: A&M, Tech, Texas, Baylor are invited"

Author: Steve Richardson Staff Writer of The Dallas Morning News
Publish Date: February 22, 1994
Word Count: 758
Document ID: 0ED3D449121D31C7
The Big Eight Conference has extended invitations to four Southwest Conference schools - the University of Texas, Texas A&M University, Texas Tech University and Baylor University - to join its league for the 1996-97 season, several sources in both conferences have told The Dallas Morning News ...

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"Big Eight adds up to 12 as Texas schools join"
St. Petersburg Times - St. Petersburg, Fla.
Date: Feb 26, 1994
Start Page: 5.C
Section: SPORTS
Text Word Count: 254
Abstract (Document Summary)

The Big Eight Conference expanded to 12 teams Friday by adding Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech and Baylor for the 1996-97 academic year.

"The addition of these four institutions to the Big Eight family will enhance the academic and athletic reputations of our conference," said Colorado Chancellor James Corbridge, the chairman of the Association of Big Eight Universities...

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"Big 8 becomes Big 12...In future may become Big 14"
Desert News - Salt Lake City
Date: May 17, 1994
Start Page: D3
Section: Sports
Author: Doug Tucker

Say hello to the Big 12. The Big 8, which plucked Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, and Baylor, out of the dying Southwest Conference in February, announced Monday that its new name would be what every one had assumed...

Officials were deluged with suggestions. One was "The Dirty Dozen," owing to the fact that all twelve schools have spent time on NCAA probation.

[TripletDaddy]

This isn't a case of being a fan of SU, though it could be argued I admire the work of at least one of his brothers.

Out with it....Jesus or Satan?

[statman]

I'm unaware of what Missouri's or Pitt's academics are like. Are either likely to be accepted by the Big 10? Notre Dame would be preferable over any other options, as they would fall squarely in the middle of the Big 10 in terms of academics, but that doesn't seem like it will happen any time soon.

Missou's academics are good enough for Big-10. Big Engineering school. Decent academically at everything else. Decent amount of research. It's not Michigan or Northwestern, but it's not Boise State (or BYU, for that matter) either.

On par with the bulk of the Big-10 - Indiana, Penn State, Iowa, Illinois, Minnesota, etc. Probably a step down from Purdue or Wisconsin - maybe Ohio State. Definitely a step down from Michigan and Northwestern.

[LiveCoug]

Someone linked this article on twitter:

http://www.mlive.com/sports/grand-ra...ld_lead_t.html

I can think of no worse scenario if what is discussed in that article comes to be. BSU, TCU and UU all going to BCS conferences would destroy BYU athletics.

[FMCoug]

LOL.

He's got it nailed. This clearly explains why the SEC is so good.

[Surfah]

I can think of no worse scenario if what is discussed in that article comes to be. BSU, TCU and UU all going to BCS conferences would destroy BYU athletics.

Then we dominate a weak ass conference a la Boise State and Hawaii and make the BCS as an at-large every year!

But yeah, should that ever happen, I'd much prefer BYU go indy.

[Hot Lunch]

Not sure if it was mentioned in this thread but Colin Cowherd this morning was talking about the most logical addition is Rutgers. He gave many valid points and the biggest being they will dip into the NY/NJ T.V. and Print Markets. After listening to that I have to agree with him. The Little 10 would stupid to not add Rutgers.