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  • #16
    Originally posted by ERCougar View Post
    Ok...so I'm a recruit who really wants to play in a BCS game.

    Do you really think the chances of Utah going to a BCS game in the next four years are much higher than BYU's? I don't.

    In fact, I'm pretty psyched about my chances of playing Oklahoma next year in Dallas. The chances of that happening are a lot higher than a BCS game.
    Why do you think schools like Miami come out of nowhere and become dominant for twenty years, even as they go through half a dozen coaches? Do you think USC's successes don't build on themseleves in terms of attracting talent. It's obvious success breeds recruiting success. How can you dispute that? Why do you think Oklahoma has more success recruiting in Texas than Utah or NEbraska?
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    • #17
      Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
      Why do you think schools like Miami come out of nowhere and become dominant for twenty years, even as they go through half a dozen coaches? Do you think USC's successes don't build on themseleves in terms of attracting talent. It's obvious success breeds recruiting success. How can you dispute that? Why do you think Oklahoma has more success recruiting in Texas than Utah or NEbraska?
      1) They're BCS teams. Utah isn't.
      2) They're VERY good every year. Utah isn't.

      Really? You can do better than that.
      At least the Big Ten went after a big-time addition in Nebraska; the Pac-10 wanted a game so badly, it added Utah
      -Berry Trammel, 12/3/10

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      • #18
        Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
        Kyle said that recruiting has been stellar since the Fiesta bowl and continues to get better, I know recruiting rankings are not fool proof, but I wanted to see if their was any correlation between them winning in the Fiesta Bowl and recruiting. Doesnt really look like it to me. Maybe after this 2nd bowl we will see a significant difference.

        Utahs recruting class rankings:


        2005 (right after the Fiesta Bowl): 71st (Scout), 59th (rivals)
        2006: 60th(scout), 55th (rivals)
        2007: 66th (scout), 71st (rivals)
        2008: 65th (scout), 60th (rivals)
        2009: 57th (scout), 45th (rivals)

        That makes Whitt's accomplishments even more impressive. Go undefeated and win a BCS bowl game with a lesser recruiting class than BYU. Not bad for a bad recruiter.

        I wish Bronco would take football a little more serious.......considering he's the football coach.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by ERCougar View Post
          Do you really think the chances of Utah going to a BCS game in the next four years are much higher than BYU's? I don't.
          I completely agree that going twice in 5 years does not impact the probability of making it to another BCS game much, if at all. But try to get that through a 17 y.o. kid's head when he has all the coaches from Utah explaining to him why it does. If Utah coaches were only able to tout the 2004 trip, i would agree with you. But twice in 5 years makes it seem like a trend to a 17 y.o. athlete.
          Last edited by Donuthole; 01-04-2009, 08:50 PM.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by ERCougar View Post
            Ok...so I'm a recruit who really wants to play in a BCS game.

            Do you really think the chances of Utah going to a BCS game in the next four years are much higher than BYU's? I don't.

            In fact, I'm pretty psyched about my chances of playing Oklahoma next year in Dallas. The chances of that happening are a lot higher than a BCS game.
            Actually yes. When football is priority #5, chances are you won't get to the BCS.

            At Utah you can be in the LDS world but not of the BYU world. If that made sense.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by ERCougar View Post
              1) They're BCS teams. Utah isn't.
              Hence, the perception is that they have better programs. That's my point. Thank you. There's only one non-BCS team that is regarded as on par with the BCS right now. I rest my case.
              When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

              --Jonathan Swift

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              • #22
                Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                Junkie and ER, Utah was 45th before this guy verballed for Utah over Florida today:

                http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com...tid=&mid=&rid=
                This actually might be the Sugar Bowl appearance paying early dividends. This kid did not have Utah on his radar and was hell bent on going out of state. He is very good, in fact Rivals has him as the number 1 run stopper in the country, this is a solid pickup for Utah.
                *Banned*

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                  Hence, the perception is that they have better programs. That's my point. Thank you. There's only one non-BCS team that is regarded as on par with the BCS right now. I rest my case.
                  No...the average football player or fan considers Utah on par with the BCS. Even if they do, the advantage to being in a BCS conference is the access to the bowl game. Utah needs a lot of things to line up to get there; USC doesn't. TCU hits a 30 yd field goal and we're not having this discussion.
                  At least the Big Ten went after a big-time addition in Nebraska; the Pac-10 wanted a game so badly, it added Utah
                  -Berry Trammel, 12/3/10

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
                    This actually might be the Sugar Bowl appearance paying early dividends. This kid did not have Utah on his radar and was hell bent on going out of state. He is very good, in fact Rivals has him as the number 1 run stopper in the country, this is a solid pickup for Utah.
                    OK...my bad. All I had heard was that this guy was looking at Utah, but maybe that's just over BYU, not Florida.
                    At least the Big Ten went after a big-time addition in Nebraska; the Pac-10 wanted a game so badly, it added Utah
                    -Berry Trammel, 12/3/10

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by ERCougar View Post
                      OK...my bad. All I had heard was that this guy was looking at Utah, but maybe that's just over BYU, not Florida.
                      You still might be right, as this is the only instance that I can recall where the BCS games played a factor. In fact Jake Heaps (number 1 recruit in the country for 2010) his mom posts on TBS, she said that all the recruits her son has talked to keeps talking about how the MWC is a powerhouse now and can compete with the big boys, not Utah.

                      So maybe this is good for the conference.
                      *Banned*

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                        Why do you think schools like Miami come out of nowhere and become dominant for twenty years, even as they go through half a dozen coaches? Do you think USC's successes don't build on themseleves in terms of attracting talent. It's obvious success breeds recruiting success. How can you dispute that? Why do you think Oklahoma has more success recruiting in Texas than Utah or NEbraska?
                        The Sooners brainwash those poor Texas kids and convince them that there is too much "freakiness" going on at the Texas schools. Bastards.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                          My favorite Switzer quote was that NOT ONE (he emphasized those two words) Utah player could have walked onto this Alabama team. True?
                          Oh come on. Everybody knows that Switzer is FOS.
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by ERCougar View Post
                            1) They're BCS teams. Utah isn't.
                            2) They're VERY good every year. Utah isn't.

                            Really? You can do better than that.
                            It is nice to see you admit reality regarding USC.

                            Fight On, ERCougar!
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                              My favorite Switzer quote was that NOT ONE (he emphasized those two words) Utah player could have walked onto this Alabama team. True?
                              Close.

                              What he said as that not one of Utah's players would have been recruited by Alabama out of high school.
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